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Why I have left Samsung

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Re: Why I have left Samsung

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I have a question as a user to devs: Do you consider fixing code a bad job, as he did? The Net is filled with complaints about things that require fixing in lots of software that's been around a while. Yet it never seems to get done. Is this more because dev hate to fix old code by someone else -- what in the book world would be termed an editor's function -- or is this the nature of the corporate beast, to just keep…

Spending 2 years maintaining old code is a great way to kill your career - there's nothing to put under the 'Accomplishments' section of your résumé.

I'm partly speaking from experience here.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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It's not a question of scale, it's a question of management. Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Pure and simple. Suit wearing, non-technical morons. Congratulations on your new job, exercise, fresh air and freshly picked berries and vegetables. Sounds pretty decent compared to sitting in front of a screen slaving for knock-off phones with shitty vendored junk. Seeing the company you work fo…

>>Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots.

Spot on!

Been there, seen that, met them and lunched with them.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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The only reason I'll never work for a "big" company again: Clearcase If the job involves this tool, I won't even apply. (Yes, there are some other bad tools as well)

My personal hate-passion is Lotus Notes.

Try Notes, Netware, and Novell Application Launcher. It's the Terrible Trifecta...

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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You are so right!! You do not realize it until it hits you. When I was in my last job, reading Dilbert almost felt like it was happening to me. Dark sarcasm..

I think we can all start a Dilbert style comic to highlight weekly (if not daily) bizarre happenings @ the office.

I guess some of us are no longer that (un)lucky. We have already started(up). :)

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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> Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots Samsung shareholders may disagree with you there....

No I am sure, and they are producing more wealth than I (probably) _EVER_ could. But doesn't mean it's a fun place for a designer and/or software engineer to be. It means it's great to be on the board, manager or shareholder. OP is a software engineer.

So you're equating "not a fun place for a software engineer" with "managed by idiots"? That's a rather strange attitude, wouldn't you think?

I often see this attitude from engineers, and although I am one as well, I always find it puzzling. There's a lot that can be said about bureaucracies, bad management, and lack of innovation. But the world doesn't revolve around writing cool software, and non-engineers aren't all idiots. It's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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(for example you have to use IE to work because much of their sofware works only as ActiveX controls) This is a problem endemic to South Korea. They actually passed legislation in the late 90s mandating the use of ActiveX for security. Now that ActiveX is an orphaned technology, that isn't working out so well for them. They are trapped on an old version of IE.

Former colleagues told me that Samsung is also known to put two teams on a task, tell neither that another team is working on said same problem, then whoever succeeds is a rockstar and whoever fails is 'restructured'. Korean companies aren't the easiest to work for, I should know I also just left a large one, but the Koreans work harder than any other group I know. Just a shame they work harder not smarter because th…

Yeah. "Militaristic" is the adjective I would choose to describe Korean corporations in general.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Whining child damages his career prospects with unprofessional rant after just nine months of work.

I used to work at Samsung. Left after 2.5 years. From your comments, two things are obvious: 1. You have no idea what you are talking about or what he was talking about. 2. Your comment is top-voted and that's bad. Leave alone whining. This guy has not even touched upon what is like working as a software engineer at Samsung. Over the time you learn to despise yourself for just working there and then leave and if you…

thanks :)

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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I disagree and the experience of many others in prominent positions have experience that runs counter to that. From the outside, it's easy to dismiss it as a "game" (which is a bit odd, given the popularity of games in software...). I'm using "game" as a synonym for "gamble", not "engaging, interactive experience". When you let your boss assign you crap work to support his career goals while you don't learn anything,…

I'm doing this right now. Hired on as a "programmer" I haven't written code in the entire time i've been in my current position. I'm doing the crap work, as are all of my coworkers who were also hired as "programmers" in the hopes that in a year or two they'll be able to jump into what they thought they were signing up for. So now I have a decision, jump ship and hurt my "future" but find a place that gives me real w…

Exactly why I'm leaving my company after ~3 years. There's absolutely no movement but lateral with a laughable pay raise, more responsibility in tasks that are unrelated to my skills and greater micromanaging.

While I've learned a lot here, most of the time I've been stagnating and it's depressing and infuriating.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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And he will come back full circle after he starts his own company and realizes there's a bunch of bullshit and stuff that he needs to swallow. He yarns about how at least in his job at Samsung he had a good income and he understands that everyone, yes absolutely everyone has to start from the bottom and fight their way to the top positions/companies. Crap, with a foot already in Samsung, he could have stay 2 years an…

I tend to agree with you. Corporations will often test you out in what you consider to be a "crap" job. Why? It's not a test of skill, it's a test of initiative . Without slamming him -- it's his personal choice, after all, and good luck to him -- this is why some people don't advance. They see a position as being "beneath" them when actually they're being watched to see if they can -- on their own -- bring something…

And this is a great way to lose your best talent. Why work for a place that puts you through bullshit tests when you can work for a company that gives you important work and helps you succeed from day 1?

Personally, I did achieve significant success in a highly bureaucratic environment and got rewarded for it...but then I left anyway to work at a place actually encouraged me to work on problems that mattered, instead of constantly getting in the way when I tried to get anything done. Any sane person would do the same thing.

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