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Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by xtracto »

mikecane wrote: post #67

I have a question as a user to devs: Do you consider fixing code a bad job, as he did? The Net is filled with complaints about things that require fixing in lots of software that's been around a while. Yet it never seems to get done. Is this more because dev hate to fix old code by someone else -- what in the book world would be termed an editor's function -- or is this the nature of the corporate beast, to just keep…

I am a dev, and I am sure my comment won't be liked here but there it goes:

Nobody likes bug-fixing: not their bugs and of course not other people's bugs. You can see this clearly in open-source software (mainly because the communication channels such as Bugzilla, forums, mailing list are all open).

It is like writing documentation: programmers don't like to do it. However, fixing bugs is worse, because there is really no payoff in doing that: if you create a feature or write a program then you are doing something new... whereas when you fix a bunch of bugs, then it mens at the end you get a piece of software which is working the way it was supposed to work on the first place... so for any external observer (client, manager, user, etc) there was no value added.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by jzs »

I'm not very surprised by being forced using IE and all kinds of active X plugins at samsung.

Consider the fact that south korea sold their soul to Microsoft and IE years ago by making it mandatory that all online purcases etc. require ActiveX plugins for IE.

Poor technology choices forced upon the population by governments are inherently bad.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by kyllo »

(for example you have to use IE to work because much of their sofware works only as ActiveX controls)

This is a problem endemic to South Korea. They actually passed legislation in the late 90s mandating the use of ActiveX for security. Now that ActiveX is an orphaned technology, that isn't working out so well for them. They are trapped on an old version of IE.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by mikecane »

praptak wrote: post #85
mikecane wrote: post #67

I have a question as a user to devs: Do you consider fixing code a bad job, as he did? The Net is filled with complaints about things that require fixing in lots of software that's been around a while. Yet it never seems to get done. Is this more because dev hate to fix old code by someone else -- what in the book world would be termed an editor's function -- or is this the nature of the corporate beast, to just keep…

There are different kinds of bug fixing. Hunting for an elusive hard to fix bug might be very satisfying. You get to know the environment, you might have to construct custom tools to gather data for the debugging purposes and you obviously get the bragging rights if you succeed. Most bugs are not that challenging though. A textbox is too small to display a value, shoveling of records from point A to point B loses som…

>>>Most bugs are not that challenging though.

What you subsequently described is a copyeditor's function on a book. Maybe such jobs need to be described as such to attract the people who really want to do them?

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by alcuadrado »

webjunkie wrote: post #99
alcuadrado wrote: post #58

A junior developer quits his job to found a tech company? Really? Unless he has other non-mentioned skills he probably made a very bad decision

What do you think most silicon valley tech entrepreneurs are? Senior developers with years of experience?

Why do you assume that because many people does something it's correct to do it? I think you should reformulate your question like "what do you think most successful silicon valley...".

I don't mean that technical skill is everything in a tech company, but it's a very important part of it.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by bruceboughton »

coldcode wrote: post #48
ozim wrote: post #23

What have you been expecting as Junior Developer? Especially in large company, there are lots of smarter people there, you are just starting. Sometimes people need to be a little more humble, than thinking that on start they will be doing new android features right away. I've worked for similar big cos as junior, did not like it also and runned away. But someone has to do the dishes...

Any technology company that still uses Active-X for anything should be avoided, no matter what.

I'm sure even Apple has some criticial, internal application in finance or some other part of the corporate structure that they bought from a vendor that uses ActiveX.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by xtracto »

aurelianito wrote: post #41
Drakim wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My personal hate-passion is Lotus Notes.

My personal hate is Crystal Reports.

Wow I did not know CR was still around! I used that back when I was doing my BS about 10 years ago. A lot of people used it with Visual Basic.

I remember learning to interface VB with Microsoft's Word libraries in order to create reports in DOC to avoid using Crystal Reports (this mainly just for college projects). I also remember one real-life project (for a restaurant I did during college) where we proposed the client to have DOC reports and he was amazed that it could be done.

OTOH, I ted to think that those things like CR, JIRA, Lotus Notes and others are a necessary evil. The mere fact that they continue existing is because they solve some kind of problem (otherwise people won't use them, right?). I guess the main problem of these platforms is that once they grow so big (trying to accomplish a lot of things) they become difficult to manage or use.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by Dystopian »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #53
SandB0x wrote: post #46

Whining child damages his career prospects with unprofessional rant after just nine months of work.

Whining? Where? Or was that an attempt at irony? Child? I would call it "rather wise for that age". Have you ever worked on a farm, by the way? Unprofessional? Define "professional", then.

It's unprofessional because in the real-world you're OFTEN (of not most of the time) tasked with tasks that you believe are below your skill-set (or non-world changing as the author put it).

The reward for the hard work is usually being elevated to a project you're proud of, or work you enjoy (sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't - that's the workforce - if you're in a situation where you don't see upward mobility, you usually switch out from Co. A to Co. B that'll grant you what you're looking for).

We may all feel the way the poster did at one time or another ("eerrrg my job sucks..."), the difference is we don't write negative, public posts against the company that we worked for (especially considering Samsung's probably recruiting, and there's a "talent shortage" in mobile development at-the-moment).

Good luck clearing due diligence for a job at a large reputable company in the future.

Sidebar, it's not a matter of age either, it's professionalism that he should have known - I'm 23, been in the workforce for 5 years, and I wouldn't be caught dead writing a post like this...

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by corresation »

coldcode wrote: post #48
ozim wrote: post #23

What have you been expecting as Junior Developer? Especially in large company, there are lots of smarter people there, you are just starting. Sometimes people need to be a little more humble, than thinking that on start they will be doing new android features right away. I've worked for similar big cos as junior, did not like it also and runned away. But someone has to do the dishes...

Any technology company that still uses Active-X for anything should be avoided, no matter what.

Any technology company that still uses Active-X for anything should be avoided

ActiveX is apparently still really big in South Korea for some reason - http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120507/12295718818/south-...

Nonetheless, if a firm has committed to Windows (which alone is a problem, but assume they've done that), it is perfectly fine to use ActiveX for systems. IE is simply a runtime, and having to use the IE runtime for some internal systems -- get the hell over it.

As others have said, blog posts like this are never professionally constructive. While some readers might sympathize with the writer, most will wonder if the problem is really with the writer (the old http://www.despair.com/dysfunction.html). There is an unavoidable smell that the writer might be toxic.

Which of course the writer can disregard. I've burned bridges and never had an ounce of concern because I understood that I was burning bridges and embraced that. If the author is doing that knowingly, then brilliant for them.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

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Post by pmelendez »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #92
hkmurakami wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose that I could argue that complaining about an incompetent former employer does literally no good for one's future career prospects. It can only hurt you, and that lack of foresight may be considered "unprofessional" by not considering your own best interests. (some companies won't care about his rant against Samsung, but some other bigcos will. No company will actually give him bonus points for his public co…

He didn't say they're incompetent, to the contrary, just that he didn't like it, and that being directly involved in something that makes more sense to him is more fulfilling to him in the meantime. So yes, he won't be hired by people without reading comprehension who snoop around on blogs, but what makes you think those are particularly productive anyway? And how is this relevant for someone looking to start his own…

>"He didn't say they're incompetent"

I am not sure about that. From the article: "Secondly Samsung as a corporation is a place of absurdity where doing unnecessary things for about 40% of time is a rule"

That sounds like incompetence to me :)

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