Live data from Hacker News

Why I have left Samsung

dream-force.com

81–90 of 158 posts

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#81

Is this a fucking joke? Then again, not surprised garbage like this being upvoted on here.

English isn't his first language.

The writing is poor (by native speaker standards; again, I think it's safe to chalk that up to not being a native speaker of English) but he's intelligent and way more honest (corporate jobs truly suck, and idiots are far too often in charge) than 99.99% of white-collar workers have the courage to be.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#82
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't realize Dilbert isn't an exaggeration until they join the workforce.

You are so right!! You do not realize it until it hits you. When I was in my last job, reading Dilbert almost felt like it was happening to me. Dark sarcasm..

For years Scott Adams had serious letters accusing him of secretly being an employee in 'their' workplace and just transcribing meetings.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#83
post #51

Warsaw software developers' job market has gotten really interesting since Google opened an engineering center here some umpteen months ago. There is just no reason to stick to crappy jobs at this time. Edit: OTOH, this is no reason to go with a bang - releasing some pressure is just not worth it.

Warsaw software developers' job market has gotten really interesting since Google opened an engineering center here some umpteen months ago. There is just no reason to stick to crappy jobs at this time.

What makes you think Google is better?

Google pays decently, but the work isn't interesting unless you have social access. Being in an Eastern European satellite office, you're not going to get the machine learning work. You're going to get the stuff that California, Seattle and New York don't want to do.

I'm sure there are Polish companies that offer real work; OP would do better at one of those than in some multinational's branch office. The problem is that most corporations are still pretty colonial and you don't get high-quality work unless you're in the main office.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#84
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't realize Dilbert isn't an exaggeration until they join the workforce.

You are so right!! You do not realize it until it hits you. When I was in my last job, reading Dilbert almost felt like it was happening to me. Dark sarcasm..

I think we can all start a Dilbert style comic to highlight weekly (if not daily) bizarre happenings @ the office.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#85

I have a question as a user to devs: Do you consider fixing code a bad job, as he did? The Net is filled with complaints about things that require fixing in lots of software that's been around a while. Yet it never seems to get done. Is this more because dev hate to fix old code by someone else -- what in the book world would be termed an editor's function -- or is this the nature of the corporate beast, to just keep…

There are different kinds of bug fixing.

Hunting for an elusive hard to fix bug might be very satisfying. You get to know the environment, you might have to construct custom tools to gather data for the debugging purposes and you obviously get the bragging rights if you succeed.

Most bugs are not that challenging though. A textbox is too small to display a value, shoveling of records from point A to point B loses some data fields, this kind of stuff. You basically know right from the start what kind of fix is required and the only challenge is finding the place in the (potentially messy) code where the fix needs to be applied.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#86
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one said it isn't hard to manage or managers in general are idiots. I was just clarifying that the decline of decent software practices isn't a scale issue, it's management issues. That tends to be because of non-technical managers/superiors.

I don't think it's a matter of non-technicality. You can find non-technical founders who are doing more or less well (Squidoo, Yammer, Groupon for example) and there's a lot of companies managed by engineers which are falling. I think it's a matter of lacking general management skills as well as number and level of complexity of problems you have to solve when you go up.

You don't need to be a coder to be winning in this game.

But you definitely need be somebody who gets the job done in whatever their area of expertise is. Those are the kind of people you quoted in your example.

There are somethings you can't teach a person. They have to learn by doing or go through the grind.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#87

The only reason I'll never work for a "big" company again: Clearcase If the job involves this tool, I won't even apply. (Yes, there are some other bad tools as well)

Bureaucracy is everywhere, not only in big companies.

Back when I worked in research, I was in a small (at most 100 people) research institute in Germany; and I was working in a EU project.

Each month, I had to log what I did every hour in 3 different, independent and non-compatible (i.e., it was hard for me to automate the process... and believe me, I tried) places:

1. An excel sheet required by the European Union office in charge of overseeing the project: Log not only the time you spent in the project (doing what for each hour? wp1, wp2, etc.; or admin) but also hours completely unrelated to the project (teaching, other projects, etc).

2. A stupid program called Profiskal. One of those programs made in Java which are made with the feet.

3. Some internal web platform.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#88
post #10

It's not a question of scale, it's a question of management. Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Pure and simple. Suit wearing, non-technical morons. Congratulations on your new job, exercise, fresh air and freshly picked berries and vegetables. Sounds pretty decent compared to sitting in front of a screen slaving for knock-off phones with shitty vendored junk. Seeing the company you work fo…

Every time (~5/month) I hear the "managers are idiots" rant I start to wonder, how is it possible that all the smart people: 1. aren't managers. 2. aren't able to convince the "idiots". I'm also curious why smart people become idiots when they're promoted. Come on. Managing is hard and definitely looks different depending on your position. To make it even more "funny" I can tell you that "employees are idiots" is a f…

I think a lot of people are idiots. Managers are just the ones that have the most control over other peoples' lives, so they're the ones people complain about the most.

Re: Why I have left Samsung

#89
post #10

It's not a question of scale, it's a question of management. Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Pure and simple. Suit wearing, non-technical morons. Congratulations on your new job, exercise, fresh air and freshly picked berries and vegetables. Sounds pretty decent compared to sitting in front of a screen slaving for knock-off phones with shitty vendored junk. Seeing the company you work fo…

Every time (~5/month) I hear the "managers are idiots" rant I start to wonder, how is it possible that all the smart people: 1. aren't managers. 2. aren't able to convince the "idiots". I'm also curious why smart people become idiots when they're promoted. Come on. Managing is hard and definitely looks different depending on your position. To make it even more "funny" I can tell you that "employees are idiots" is a f…

In teams of ordinary laborers, managers usually are smarter than the employees. But in teams "rocket scientists", it can easily be a misallocation of resources to employ another rocket scientist as the rocket scientists' manager. The management job may be one of task coordination and solving mundane people issues more suited to a normal college graduate rather than some genius-level person.

This can leave you in the awkward situation where the person in a higher position within the organization is not as intelligent as his employees. But given limited resources, as most companies are subject to, it may be the optimal structure for an organization, despite whatever "Dilbert" moments come out of it.

Post reply on HN