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Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#11

Post by weareconvo »

300bps wrote: post #8
gendoikari wrote: post #7

I think this article is a little bit naive. Google sent the email during IO, because the overwhelming flow of Google news simply obliterates any other news. Nobody cares about a Window Phone app while we are talking about new Android Studio, new Google Map, new G+ interface, new Gmail features, new apis, etc... "Microsoft violated YouTube license? Bad for them, now move on and let's talk about Android game developmen…

The things I care about seem to be the opposite of the things you care about. For instance, I'm ditching my third and last iPhone today for the Lumia 928 Windows Phone 8.

You are most definitely the only one. And judging from your comment history, you also like Windows 8, so rest assured that your opinions are far, far outside the mainstream.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#12

Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #2

Earlier discussions: C&D takedown to Microsoft by Google: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715168 Microsoft's response(Lying at #40 on second page because of heavy flagging by Google fans in spite of it having more votes than many stories on front page): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889

Or just "heavy flagging"... it's a little ridiculous to claim that everyone who hates Microsoft is a Google fan. Microsoft did enough to earn my eternal contempt before Google even existed.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#14

Post by CloudNine »

weareconvo wrote: post #11
300bps wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The things I care about seem to be the opposite of the things you care about. For instance, I'm ditching my third and last iPhone today for the Lumia 928 Windows Phone 8.

You are most definitely the only one. And judging from your comment history, you also like Windows 8, so rest assured that your opinions are far, far outside the mainstream.

Just last quarter, Windows Phone shipped on 6 million phones and Windows 8 sold total 100 million licensees. Someone who likes them is the "only one" and is "far, far out of the mainstream?".

Also what's up with people launching ad hominem attacks on people liking Windows instead of commenting on the topic on hand? What has your post got to do with Google blocking and refusing to make a YouTube app for Windows Phone?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#15

Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #14
weareconvo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are most definitely the only one. And judging from your comment history, you also like Windows 8, so rest assured that your opinions are far, far outside the mainstream.

Just last quarter, Windows Phone shipped on 6 million phones and Windows 8 sold total 100 million licensees. Someone who likes them is the "only one" and is "far, far out of the mainstream?". Also what's up with people launching ad hominem attacks on people liking Windows instead of commenting on the topic on hand? What has your post got to do with Google blocking and refusing to make a YouTube app for Windows Phone?

"Ad hominem" is only an appropriate term to use if I was saying that he was making an argument, but that his argument was wrong because of some defect in his character. It isn't just used for any time anyone mentions the other person in a conversation.

In this case, no argument was made. He simply said "The things I care about seem to be opposite of the things you care about". That's not an argument, it's just a personal statement. Even if ad hominem WERE the correct term, it would be even LESS appropriate here, because he was the one who brought up his own tastes in the first place.

EDIT: And to respond to the rest of your post, numbers like those are meaningless. Unless they're presented in a comparative context, they're very much like showing someone a graph without its axes labeled.

So for comparative purposes, Windows Phone shipped on that many devices. Great. How many Android and iPhone devices were shipped in the same period?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#16

Post by CloudNine »

yareally wrote: post #10
CloudNine wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Also, what if I was him/her? Whats your problem, really Well, looking at his previous postings he seems quite the dedicated Google fan and Microsoft hater. Nothing wrong with that, really but my best guess is that he has nothing to say about Google's evil power grab to hurt Windows Phone here or Google's hypocritical bogus Mission Statement, so he's doing the next best thing at damage control for Google by trying to…

I don't think he's a Microsoft hater, he works for them[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cooldeal

Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN.

I didn't see a sign up message on HN stating that only Google and Apple employees/fans are allowed to post here.

Nice job at trying to derail the discussion. Now care tell us what do you think of the topic of this story instead of trying to go ad hominem on a tangent about some HN commenter's posting history which has nothing to do with anything really?

Edit: What in cooldeal's HN profile makes you think he works for Microsoft?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by CloudNine »

dreen wrote: post #13

So how did Microsoft get Google to promote the Scroogled campaign? The article claims this is what happened but there is no information about it or proof or any sort of logical link, only about MS publishing the C&D letter.

Read the stories in this post for more details.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717749

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by CloudNine »

weareconvo wrote: post #15
CloudNine wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just last quarter, Windows Phone shipped on 6 million phones and Windows 8 sold total 100 million licensees. Someone who likes them is the "only one" and is "far, far out of the mainstream?". Also what's up with people launching ad hominem attacks on people liking Windows instead of commenting on the topic on hand? What has your post got to do with Google blocking and refusing to make a YouTube app for Windows Phone?

"Ad hominem" is only an appropriate term to use if I was saying that he was making an argument, but that his argument was wrong because of some defect in his character. It isn't just used for any time anyone mentions the other person in a conversation. In this case, no argument was made. He simply said "The things I care about seem to be opposite of the things you care about". That's not an argument, it's just a pers…

I see, do you have an opinion on the story or are you here just to comment about how other people's personal tastes are out of the mainstream?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#19

Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #18
weareconvo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Ad hominem" is only an appropriate term to use if I was saying that he was making an argument, but that his argument was wrong because of some defect in his character. It isn't just used for any time anyone mentions the other person in a conversation. In this case, no argument was made. He simply said "The things I care about seem to be opposite of the things you care about". That's not an argument, it's just a pers…

I see, do you have an opinion on the story or are you here just to comment about how other people's personal tastes are out of the mainstream?

Ironically, the subtle implication of THIS comment - that my responses are less valuable because I am, in general, a negative person - IS drifting towards ad hominem.
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