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Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by SomeCallMeTim »

angersock wrote: post #25
BoppreH wrote: post #3

Aaron Diaz is amazing. The time travel/transhumanism comic Hob is greatly recommended ( http://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/ ).

There are many webcomics out there that are strictly better from both a plotting and dialog standpoint--however, for simply having delightful art and interesting character design, Dresden Codak is wonderful. I'm a bit skeptical of the current Kickstarter, but here's hoping, you know?

OK, confused. "Current" Kickstarter? Is there more than one? Because the one that he finished seemed to fund quite well.

Skeptical that it will be late? Well, given the normal DC schedule, that wouldn't surprise me a lot. But I don't fund projects on Kickstarter expecting a particular delivery date like it's a store. So if it arrives in November I'll still be happy.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by throwaway1980 »

kevingadd wrote: post #28
gojomo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's your broad claim "by any United States standard" that's likely the cause of the downvotes. Lots of US people here work in places where these two non-pruriently-posed cartoon nudes, used for a valid illustrative purpose, present no 'safety' problem. Please don't make the US work environment seem more prude or homogenous than it actually is. This is not "definitely, most very not-safe-for-work". It depends on wher…

I've never encountered a work environment where viewing those drawings at work would be defensible unless you were actually an artist. Note that I'm not saying that this would be a firable offense, but that someone could easily complain to HR about it and it could be considered creating a hostile work environment if it makes them feel unwelcome. These things matter!

Ever worked in construction?

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by datalus »

enraged_camel wrote: post #8
knowtheory wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

depends on the context and the standards. The nakedness in question here is not intended to titillate, but to illustrate (ha) a point. To anyone who's ever taken a drawing class w/ a nude model, this is scandalous in the least. If you're presenting to your board of directors, it might be (presuming that character design is not pertinent to your endeavor).

Dude, I work at a fairly liberal software company in SoCal, and if I scrolled down to the bottom-most picture with the hand-drawn fully-naked chick and someone happened to glance at my screen, I would most likely be fired. As a rule of thumb, suggestive/sexy clothing is "mildly NSFW." Full nudity, regardless of context, is "very NSFW." (It may be different in Europe.)

Newsflash: SoCal isn't as liberal as you may think.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by jholman »

roryokane wrote: post #14

If you’re interested in reading more tips about cartoon drawing technique, there’s a relevant book I’ve read some of, How to Make Webcomics: http://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Webcomics-Scott-Kurtz/dp/1582... . I sampled a few chapters in a bookstore and remember that the author of PVP gave very similar advice, which I found interesting reading. I’m not skilled enough to evaluate the book’s drawing advice, but it looked…

Did you just point out that Scott Kurtz (one of the authors of that book) gave some advice similar to that given by Scott Kurtz (author of PvP)?

(hopefully the humour/snark part of that comment doesn't overwhelm the information part)

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by kevingadd »

gojomo wrote: post #30
kevingadd wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never encountered a work environment where viewing those drawings at work would be defensible unless you were actually an artist. Note that I'm not saying that this would be a firable offense, but that someone could easily complain to HR about it and it could be considered creating a hostile work environment if it makes them feel unwelcome. These things matter!

And I've never worked anyplace where it would be a problem. Which refutes your categorical pronouncements about nationally-consistent standards. Everyone's got an anecdote!

Well, if you're demanding standards, you could spend a few seconds looking up the definition of sexual harassment in the workplace:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_environment_sexual_hara...

You'll notice 'pictures of pornography in cubicles' is one of them.

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/currentissues.html (a government website, note) mentions specific cases where visible pornography counted as establishing a hostile work environment.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by angersock »

SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #31
angersock wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many webcomics out there that are strictly better from both a plotting and dialog standpoint--however, for simply having delightful art and interesting character design, Dresden Codak is wonderful. I'm a bit skeptical of the current Kickstarter, but here's hoping, you know?

OK, confused. "Current" Kickstarter? Is there more than one? Because the one that he finished seemed to fund quite well. Skeptical that it will be late? Well, given the normal DC schedule, that wouldn't surprise me a lot. But I don't fund projects on Kickstarter expecting a particular delivery date like it's a store. So if it arrives in November I'll still be happy.

It's funded, to the tune of a half million--I'm curious if he'll actually be able to deliver. I hope so.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by RBerenguel »

throwaway1980 wrote: post #5

Strange, I've never heard the term "figure drawing" used in the context of comics or animation. Maybe it's common within the field, but the artists I know generally associate it with drawing human models. Wikipedia doesn't mention it either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_drawing Interesting post though. I liked seeing the Cowboy Bebop characters again, and the point about the need for the body to be identifiab…

There's a book by Walt Stanchfield (former head of animation at Disney) named "Figure drawing for animation" Although the name may have changed, it used to be a photocopied book passing from hand to hand, but I read it was about to be properly published.

Edit: memory failure (just woke up, I guess it counts as an excuse) The book is /Gesture/ drawing for animation, not figure drawing. I mentally mixed the article content with your reference :) The book is great, though.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by dbaupp »

angersock wrote: post #24
lowboy wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd still classify it as mildly NSFW. Cartoons and other depictions are less NSFW than images. Or else the following would also be a fireable offense: (.|.)

But I don't understand why you need to match periods redundantly in your regex?

That's why it's a fireable offense.

Re: Figures: They Speak For Themselves (mildly NSFW)

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Post by icebraining »

kevingadd wrote: post #36
gojomo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I've never worked anyplace where it would be a problem. Which refutes your categorical pronouncements about nationally-consistent standards. Everyone's got an anecdote!

Well, if you're demanding standards, you could spend a few seconds looking up the definition of sexual harassment in the workplace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_environment_sexual_hara... You'll notice 'pictures of pornography in cubicles' is one of them. http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/currentissues.html (a government website, note) mentions specific cases where visible pornography counted as establishing a…

Thankfully there's no such thing in this post.
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