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Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by vidarh »

ihuman wrote: post #43
untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

From someone who admittedly prefers to use a text editor in a terminal: It's horrendously slow, especially to start. It's massively overcomplicated. It's laggy and unresponsive in ways that only java software tends to be.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by vidarh »

smrtinsert wrote: post #54
untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

This is pretty crazy considering the huge investment Google has made into Eclipse to create the SDK there. There is also a significant community investment in using Android with Eclipse. Eclipse once you get rolling is amazing, and most importantly its free which is a big deal especially to cash strapped individuals and businesses. What will happen with the existing Eclipse SDK? Also what about GWT? Splitting the IDE…

> This is pretty crazy considering the huge investment Google has made into Eclipse to create the SDK there.

What's pretty crazy is that they were insane enough to base it on Eclipse in the first place, seeing as it's probably the only IDE that so many people hate so intensely.

I'm a Linux user primarily, use OS X at work, and detest Windows, yet I'd pick Visual Studio ca. 1999 over Eclipse any day. I'm an Emacs user, yet I'd switch to Vim in a heartbeat if I had to pick between Vim and Eclipse.

I suspect you will find quite a lot of people with similarly strong hate for Eclipse. It's a trainwreck. Though in slow motion, as Eclipse never seems to do anything fast.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by rpgmaker »

Dove wrote: post #98

The early access preview ( http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html ) is definitely prettier than Eclipse. Not that that's a high bar to clear. It also seems to be less stable, which is a high bar to clear. ;) Yeah, I know, pre-release software. The windows seem to take a long time to load, too. That strikes me as odd -- it's one thing when you're starting up some sort of interpreter, but several secon…

Every time I open eclipse I feel like crying. Is just that awful (usability-wise).

On my search to replace Eclipse for my android development I think I came across IntelliJ and it was very resources-heavy compared to eclipse which in the end made me give up on it. Let's hope it's more efficient now...

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by nevster »

vidarh wrote: post #152
smrtinsert wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty crazy considering the huge investment Google has made into Eclipse to create the SDK there. There is also a significant community investment in using Android with Eclipse. Eclipse once you get rolling is amazing, and most importantly its free which is a big deal especially to cash strapped individuals and businesses. What will happen with the existing Eclipse SDK? Also what about GWT? Splitting the IDE…

> This is pretty crazy considering the huge investment Google has made into Eclipse to create the SDK there. What's pretty crazy is that they were insane enough to base it on Eclipse in the first place, seeing as it's probably the only IDE that so many people hate so intensely. I'm a Linux user primarily, use OS X at work, and detest Windows, yet I'd pick Visual Studio ca. 1999 over Eclipse any day. I'm an Emacs user…

It's probably because the Community Edition of IntelliJ didn't exist when they started doing their Android tooling. Eclipse was more dominant back then. That's slowly been changing (thank goodness!)

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by corysama »

DTanner wrote: post #78
Jare wrote: post #71

Many of us game devs use C++ for performance and especially cross-platform support, so I am very interested in seeing how NDK support turns out in this. Debugging native code in particular has always been a pain point even for people who don't hate Eclipse.

This will be make or break for me as well. I'm able to code C++ with Visual Studio (and Visual Assist X) and compile it directly in the IDE with vs-android. The only thing that could make be switch over would be a robust NDK debugger.

Try Nsight Tegra VStudio. https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-nsight-tegra

It's still rough and hampered by ndk's buggy gdb. But when it works it's beautiful! Visual Studio stepping between java and C++!!

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by nevster »

LordIllidan wrote: post #114
mayanksinghal wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CTO of Jetbrains is talking about this at the moment at Google IO. It could have been a collaboration.

Hell, imagine all the PR at the moment. They don't just do Java, they have IDEs for PHP, iOS, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if their sales took off as a result of this keynote.

I agree. I see it as a massive win for JetBrains!

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by chetanahuja »

Lately I've been forced to use eclipse for Android development to create a demo app for our technology(* ). The general lack of responsiveness of the UI was so annoying that I basically took to doing all my editing in emacs and just manually refreshing eclipse windows for UI changes, build and DDMS views for debugging. A lot of my development is C/C++ code (NDK build) which I'm doing completely in emacs anyway, it mostly worked out for me.

Can someone who has experience in IntelliJ tell me how well it might support a workflow involving an external editor ? Basically I'm trying to decide whether it's worth investing the time to switch over for my use-case. Many thanks in advance for an informative answer.

(* ) for this -> packetzoom.com

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by chourobin »

ihuman wrote: post #43
untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

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