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This reminds me of the awkward greeting between 50 cent and Erin Andrews. In that situation should 50 cent have greeted her with a hug and kiss or was that inappropriate? Was Erin Andrews right to act the way she did because she was working?

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Is there any acceptance for bowing outside East Asia, or salutes outside of the military?

I've heard stories of some American professional environments borrowing Japanese-style bowing during the 1980's, when Japanese business was revered by some in corporate America.

Then the 1990's happened, and now it doesn't seem like there's as much of a desire to emulate the superficial elements of Japanese business culture. That being said, I don't think that eastern-style bowing has ever been commonplace for western business environments.

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I'm more concerned about the strength of handshakes. I have a bias against anyone who actively squeezes my hand with anything beyond a simple, firm grasp. It comes across as macho, like you've got something to prove, and therefore untrustworthy. I'd like to point out here that I'm admitting a bias rather than expressing an opinion. EDIT: at least now I'm approaching something resembling adulthood I don't have the pro…

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Re: Hug vs. Handshake

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I find it hard doing a handshake with females, I always try not to apply too much strength and in result end up with taking their hands like they used to do with princesses - you know, I end up holding their fingers. And that makes it even more awkward :-(

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I'm basically with you on this, though when I receive a particularly brutal handshake a certain scene from Hot Shots[1] involuntarily leaps to mind and I tend to chuckle rather than read too much into the psyche of the shaker. What is your opinion on the opposite? For me that's far more unsettling. I've initiated handshakes with people whose age and home country meant they didn't really have much experience o…

>What is your opinion on the opposite? I've only ever experienced this with peers who I know well, and I actually find there's a pleasant intimacy to it. It would definitely be weird if it happened in a formal context though.

By "opposite"[1] I mean the muscle-relaxed version. How does such a thing even work as a hand "shake"?

Btw I loved your original comment in both style and content, hence my riffing. One of those if-I-could-upvote-twice circumstances.

[1] When someone says "opposite" draw a reasonable hyperplane and reflect.

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Would you hug Hilary Clinton if you’ve met her on two or three different occasions? Of course not. And it’s the same for the female CEO of a major bank. So then, why would you hug a female work associate that you’ve only met twice? Answer: you don’t hug Mrs. Clinton or the female CEO because you respect them too much. Now, notice that this is how men treat ALL males. http://danielmiessler.com/blog/on-hugs-vs-handshak…

It's not a matter of respect; it's a matter of familiarity.

Re: Hug vs. Handshake

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post #58

I offer a hug to anyone who I'm not in a professional relationship with. Most people seem to like this, and if they don't, I switch to a 'bro hug' in mid-motion. Nice and simple.

I think this is a nice technique and have tried it with more or less success, also, I tried to appeal to the normality of hugging someone by just calling someone out "Stop whining and hug me please!" :)

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My favourite definition of "awkwardness" comes from Steven Pinker: it's the uncomfortable feeling you get when you realize that your concept of your relationship with someone else doesn't match their concept. The intensity of awkwardness roughly corresponds to the magnitude of difference in relationship concepts. For example, I was at a dinner party recently and greeted a female friend with a handshake. She said, "Th…

There's also culture. Among my friends, I have to keep straight whether they expect 0, 1, 2, or 3 kisses on the cheek.

You can always ask in advance, making it nonchalant :) "1 kiss, right?", that at least will be a nice ice-breaker that will minimize awkwardness
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