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Re: Introducing Android Studio

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This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

> Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse?

Echoing what others have said, you will notice if you've tried other IDE's. Since my main IDE is Visual Studio, I notice the lag / slowness / clunkiness immediately. YMMV. Maybe on a newer blazing fast CPU it's not so apparent. Definitely not OS dependent. I've tried Eclipse on both Windows and Linux, it's slow on both.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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It's this, they said it was based on the community (free) edition of intellij.

That makes me angry. I really like Jetbrains as a company and you would think Google could spare some money and pay Jetbrains something.

Don't be angry...JetBrains sounds happy:

"Confirmed! Android Studio is a new IDE that Google is developing in cooperation with JetBrains and based on IntelliJ IDEA. Details shortly." https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/334725715922669568

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's this, they said it was based on the community (free) edition of intellij.

That makes me angry. I really like Jetbrains as a company and you would think Google could spare some money and pay Jetbrains something.

CTO of Jetbrains is talking about this at the moment at Google IO. It could have been a collaboration.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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So stoked, I love Intellij, Rubymine, and PyCharm but for some reason setting up Intellij to do Android dev is always so difficult (and the Jetbrains pro version is not cheap at around 600 bucks iirc). If Google has made any of the env setup better I am all about this.

The personal license (aka a person owns it, not a company) is €179. From time to time they have huge discounts - they had a Black Friday discount of 75%. Recently there was a 50% discount.

Just watch the news on reddit or here :)

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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The early access preview (http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html) is definitely prettier than Eclipse. Not that that's a high bar to clear. It also seems to be less stable, which is a high bar to clear. ;)

Yeah, I know, pre-release software.

The windows seem to take a long time to load, too. That strikes me as odd -- it's one thing when you're starting up some sort of interpreter, but several seconds to scan the project directory or open a file? Perhaps that's another pre-release issue.

The layout XML editor looks like a big win, though. The syntax awareness, suggestions, documentation access, formatting and just all around general helpfulness seem to be about 1000x better than Eclipse. That alone would make it worth the switch! I think the biggest time sink for me while working on layouts is remembering "what's the darn attribute for..." It's all right there in glorious detail.

The realtime WYSIWYG view is . . . cool, I guess. ADT already had that, though you had to switch to a different tab for it. Maybe I'm missing something; it doesn't seem that revolutionary to me. It still doesn't handle custom views, which I use a lot of. (And I mean a lot! Custom container views, too.) And I don't really like feedback while typing, anyway. YMMV, of course, but it looks to me like the big win is the text editor itself, not the graphical display.

I've been meaning to get off of Eclipse for a while now, so I'll play with it more and watch how it changes. For now, color me experimental and cautiously optimistic.

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