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Re: Introducing Android Studio

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ihuman wrote: post #43
untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

I have neither used Eclipse or IntelliJ much. So from a new user point of view -

I dislike Eclipse primarily because of really bad UI. Big toolbars, tabs, everything takes up considerable amount of screen leaving very limited space for code. Looks ugly. Speed sucks too.

On other hand, IntelliJ not only has cleaner UI, but also better shortcuts and even show hints to remember them. Speed not great, but feels better than Eclipse.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by smackfu »

pjmlp wrote: post #35
smackfu wrote: post #26

Is Eclipse worse or something when doing Android dev? It seems just fine to me doing normal Java dev, but to hear people talk it is the worst IDE ever invented.

I hate its workspace concept with passion. Most IDEs just use some kind of project file, or are able to use directly build tools. But Eclipse always has to create this workspace full of metadata that it likes to corrupt every now and then!

True, I definitely agree with that. Especially how working with multiple workspaces has to be handled outside of Eclipse, via shortcuts or something.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by smrtinsert »

untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

This is pretty crazy considering the huge investment Google has made into Eclipse to create the SDK there. There is also a significant community investment in using Android with Eclipse. Eclipse once you get rolling is amazing, and most importantly its free which is a big deal especially to cash strapped individuals and businesses.

What will happen with the existing Eclipse SDK? Also what about GWT? Splitting the IDE communities is bold. So many questions though.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by smackfu »

truncate wrote: post #51
ihuman wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

I have neither used Eclipse or IntelliJ much. So from a new user point of view - I dislike Eclipse primarily because of really bad UI. Big toolbars, tabs, everything takes up considerable amount of screen leaving very limited space for code. Looks ugly. Speed sucks too. On other hand, IntelliJ not only has cleaner UI, but also better shortcuts and even show hints to remember them. Speed not great, but feels better th…

Traditional Style Tabs are quite a bit less ugly.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by fooqux »

truncate wrote: post #51
ihuman wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

I have neither used Eclipse or IntelliJ much. So from a new user point of view - I dislike Eclipse primarily because of really bad UI. Big toolbars, tabs, everything takes up considerable amount of screen leaving very limited space for code. Looks ugly. Speed sucks too. On other hand, IntelliJ not only has cleaner UI, but also better shortcuts and even show hints to remember them. Speed not great, but feels better th…

I've thought the speed has increased considerably over the years, although to be honest I'm not a huge fan of any of the "full" IDEs out there.

Also, I know what you mean by the large amount of screen real estate all those toolbars and windows take up, but you do know you can close / turn all those off right? It's not too bad after that.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by smrtinsert »

mey wrote: post #46
ihuman wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

I use Eclipse extensively personally, but the one thing that drives me nuts about it is it's general speed. Conversely I'm so well versed it in I don't have a strong desire to replace it at the center of my work flow. Just been getting better/faster machines over the years.

They took a step back with the CSS theming disaster which seemed to slow down the UI dramatically. Other than I have never hated Eclipse. It's very productive for Java development. That said I use SublimeText for every other language...

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by king_jester »

brown9-2 wrote: post #47
thorum wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's an IDE based on IntelliJ." I'm in.

I wonder if they've licensed something from JetBrains or if this "IDE" is an extensive plugin on top of the free version of IntelliJ.

It's this, they said it was based on the community (free) edition of intellij.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by m_darkTemplar »

ihuman wrote: post #43
untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

Why does everyone seem to hate Eclipse? I've been using for a while and I can't find reasons to dislike it.

It's slow and buggy in my experience. I work on a fairly large Android project and over time it just keeps getting slower and slower. Doing things like closing/opening files of any size can take > 5 seconds even with a good SDD and processor, and this time increases as you use it until you restart eclipse. Also it crashes more often than any other IDE I've used and lately has refused to use emacs keybindings for me.

Lately I've switched using emacs w/ JDEE to edit code and Eclipse mostly just for debugging and the Android XML layout tools, which feels much better. I'm really interested in this new IDE from google, it'd be better if I could do all my editing/debugging in one program.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

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