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Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by 6thSigma » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:15 PM UTC

I switched to IntelliJ from Eclipse for Android development a few months ago. Best decision I've ever made.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by myko » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:16 PM UTC

emehrkay wrote: post #18

I havent kept up with Android development much, but have they addressed the simulation and UI building issues (when compared to IOS or Windows Phone development tools)?

> have they addressed the simulation and UI building issues

I don't know what UI building issues you're referring to but the intel based emulators run very quickly and I have no problems using them. Though I still prefer testing directly on hardware, for different form factors that isn't always an option.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by airlocksoftware » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:16 PM UTC

I've been developing Android apps for a couple of years now. On my machine, Eclipse degenerated to the point where building and running an app would lock up my machine for about a minute. So I made the switch to IntelliJ. It's been great so far, much more responsive. But there have been a few Android tools from Eclipse (the layout preview is worse in IntelliJ) that I've missed. So I'm insanely excited that the Android team is going to be building off of IntelliJ now.

The next thing I'm waiting for is the new, Gradle based, build system. http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by ichinaski » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:20 PM UTC

Now I only need a VI plugin for this IDE.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by dmiladinov » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:24 PM UTC

davesims wrote: post #19

untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

IntelliJ 12's Android support is vastly superior to Eclipse, in addition to being just a better Java IDE overall. I'm now very curious to know just how different Android Studio will be from IntelliJ. I'd guess it's going to something akin to the difference between JetBrains' RubyMine and Ruby/Rails plugin support inside IntelliJ -- same overall functionality with better UX integration for the domain.

Even the community edition[1] supports android development. Just point IntelliJ at your android sdk installation folder, and you're off to the races!

[1]: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/android.html

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by smackfu » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:26 PM UTC

Is Eclipse worse or something when doing Android dev? It seems just fine to me doing normal Java dev, but to hear people talk it is the worst IDE ever invented.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by emehrkay » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:27 PM UTC

myko wrote: post #22

emehrkay wrote: post #18

I havent kept up with Android development much, but have they addressed the simulation and UI building issues (when compared to IOS or Windows Phone development tools)?

> have they addressed the simulation and UI building issues I don't know what UI building issues you're referring to but the intel based emulators run very quickly and I have no problems using them. Though I still prefer testing directly on hardware, for different form factors that isn't always an option.

I just remember some of my old co-workers who were developing cross-platform mobile apps complaining about how difficult it was to do UI stuff on Android compared to IOS/Winphone. It looks like they have addressed those concerns though

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333534/google-android-stu...

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by fly2never » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:27 PM UTC

ichinaski wrote: post #24

Now I only need a VI plugin for this IDE.

ideavim is your friend

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by mtgx » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:28 PM UTC

k3n wrote: post #7

untog wrote: post #2

This is huge. I've held out on Android development for many reasons, but my visceral hate for Eclipse is one of them. I know I've been able to use IntelliJ before now, but Eclipse was Google's example in tutorials, etc. Now I'm very excited to make an Android app.

I thought Google was pretty heavily invested in the Eclipse ecosystem, I think they use it quite a bit internally (at least from what I can gather). Perhaps those efforts were more in the interest of supporting the community of developers which use their API's, though. I also hate Eclipse, even though I've tried my hardest to overlook its shortcomings. I'll leave it at that so as not to delve too far off-topic.

I think they mainly use IntelliJ internally, too.

Re: Introducing Android Studio

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Post by mtgx » Wed, May 15, 2013, 5:29 PM UTC

emehrkay wrote: post #18

I havent kept up with Android development much, but have they addressed the simulation and UI building issues (when compared to IOS or Windows Phone development tools)?

Android does emulation not simulation.