Is this Microsoft's official Windows blog? What a piece of garbage.
Who labels their feeds (Atom??) as "Syndication"?
I don't know who works at Microsoft anymore, but it's a really weird culture.
Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
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That brings up a good question. With newer laptops and monitors being touch, how long do we have left before touch display become the norm? Is Microsoft trying to have a solution before the problem?
I have a laptop with a touch screen and even while using programs it conceivably makes sense in (read: not a webbrowser, terminal, text editor / word processor, video player....), I still don't use it. My hands are at rest near the clickpad so why would I? As long as computers ship with good pointer devices, as far as I can tell there can be no problem to solve.
If you are a kid today growing up with smartphones and tablets, the fact that you can't touch things when you're old enough to start interacting with computers would be weird. That you naturally default to using the mouse is a learned habit. It's not one the next generation will have when they grow up; give them only a pointer device and they will not buy your device. If Microsoft weren't positioning itself to work the way they will be accustomed to just as well, it'd be ensuring its own demise when they become the next generation of workers and computer customers.
Microsoft is trying to play the long game, as always; whether they're doing it well is up for debate. They want Windows to work for you with your mouse, for Bob who wants a tablet to watch videos and check e-mail on, for Stacy who wants a tablet to seamlessly switch between working in Office and entertainment, for Josh who only uses a smartphone, and for Johnny who's just growing up and will be a potential Windows customer in 5-10 years.
Re: Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
This sums up my experience with MS in general; conversations driven by marketing and nothing else. For many other tech companies it's a much lower marketing:info ratio. Google is fairly good about it, and Mozilla is pretty good, while Apple is just as bad as MS.
I disagree about the Apple part. If Apple tells you something, they will generally tell you what you will get, but not how it works. Microsoft, in this example, tells you neither. The three items of information are "it's Windows 8.1", "it's a free update", and "we will tell you more" (that third one is counting liberally) With Apple, this would either be a new OS X release that gets a page showing its new end user fe…
Yes good point, for announcements Apple typically won't divulge a whole lot, but it's strategically important to drive the message (i.e. key features/capabilities), and then saving the rest for later. At least that's my observation, and I can't fault them on that basis.
Re: Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
#104Does anybody know whether they are going to fix the INT_MIN / -1 bug in the kernel? This code below (compiled and linked with gdi32) crashes fully patched versions of Windows 7 and 8 (32 bit), I didn't try it with 64bit versions. #include #include int main() { HDC dc = CreateCompatibleDC (NULL); SetLayout (dc, LAYOUT_RTL); ScaleWindowExtEx (dc, INT_MIN, -1, 1, 1, NULL); }
why isn't this treated as a serious security issue?
Is it exploitable to gain elevated privileges?
Typically a user with the ability to make those calls can shut down the machine anyway. But Terminal Services/Remote Desktop may be an exception.
Re: Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a laptop with a touch screen and even while using programs it conceivably makes sense in (read: not a webbrowser, terminal, text editor / word processor, video player....), I still don't use it. My hands are at rest near the clickpad so why would I? As long as computers ship with good pointer devices, as far as I can tell there can be no problem to solve.
If you are a kid today growing up with smartphones and tablets, the fact that you can't touch things when you're old enough to start interacting with computers would be weird. That you naturally default to using the mouse is a learned habit. It's not one the next generation will have when they grow up; give them only a pointer device and they will not buy your device. If Microsoft weren't positioning itself to work t…
Lets say I'm in a webbrowser, like I assume 99% of the population is 99% of the time (locally running games excluded). What am I going to touch? Unlike on a phone the pinch/zoom gesture that makes clicking on links practical isn't comfortable in the slightest (I have to bend my wrist uncomfortably to put both my thumb and index finger on the screen at the same time). Even worse, desktop browsers aren't going to fetch mobile versions of pages that are meant to be used with touch.
The one place that I've ever seen it being a decent input choice on my laptop is clicking through the menus in minecraft. Unusually massive buttons that only need a single tap of the finger to use. I don't think anything other than minecraft or other "low-fi is cool" style games could really get away with doing that though.
Even if they make all of Windows "lo-fi" like minecraft, which I suppose is what they are aiming for with windows 8, it won't matter. The things people actually use windows for won't/can't follow suit.
I don't know, maybe I'm just an old grump.
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If you are a kid today growing up with smartphones and tablets, the fact that you can't touch things when you're old enough to start interacting with computers would be weird. That you naturally default to using the mouse is a learned habit. It's not one the next generation will have when they grow up; give them only a pointer device and they will not buy your device. If Microsoft weren't positioning itself to work t…
Lets say I'm in a webbrowser, like I assume 99% of the population is 99% of the time (locally running games excluded). What am I going to touch? Unlike on a phone the pinch/zoom gesture that makes clicking on links practical isn't comfortable in the slightest (I have to bend my wrist uncomfortably to put both my thumb and index finger on the screen at the same time). Even worse, desktop browsers aren't going to fetch…
You're not forward-looking enough. 2012 was the beginning of the end of the laptop form factor. Windows 8 needs to last a good decade or so for Microsoft, so it better be ready for the form factors that will be popular in the coming years. That's going to be tablets of all sizes you can dock to a keyboard for laptop-like work. With a hard hinge or kickstand, they look and work like the laptop you're used to. They're otherwise undocked or have the screen flipped down over the keyboard for tablet-like interaction.
There's no wrist contortion when using the same computer if you can move the screen flat in a split second to switch modes of interaction. If you're not convinced that using the full internet on a touchscreen PC can't be as fluid, easy and enjoyable as it is on your mobile device or Android tablet, find a store with a Surface Pro tablet on display, hold it in your hand without the magnetic keyboard attached, and tap Internet Explorer 10. It feels like the future, man. If your phone feels fluid, pinch zooming on an Intel Core i5 feels like you're in an Iron Man movie working with Jarvis. No mobile sites required; the only thing that you'll have trouble doing just as easy and accurately as if you had a mouse is menus that have hover states.
Re: Microsoft announces Windows 8.1
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lets say I'm in a webbrowser, like I assume 99% of the population is 99% of the time (locally running games excluded). What am I going to touch? Unlike on a phone the pinch/zoom gesture that makes clicking on links practical isn't comfortable in the slightest (I have to bend my wrist uncomfortably to put both my thumb and index finger on the screen at the same time). Even worse, desktop browsers aren't going to fetch…
You're not forward-looking enough. 2012 was the beginning of the end of the laptop form factor. Windows 8 needs to last a good decade or so for Microsoft, so it better be ready for the form factors that will be popular in the coming years. That's going to be tablets of all sizes you can dock to a keyboard for laptop-like work. With a hard hinge or kickstand, they look and work like the laptop you're used to. They're…
We've had laptops like that for a decade. Tablets make sense, I don't doubt that, and laptops that can turn into tablets are fine, but the technology is just silly in regular laptops.
If Windows 8 is all about Microsoft getting ready to ditch regular laptops let alone desktops entirely... well besides thinking that is a mistake I think they should have manned up and never pretended it was for regular laptops in the first place.
I've used a surface briefly. I walked away from it with that "gee wiz that was neato... but adds no value to my life" vibe that I got years ago from Beryl/Compiz.
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MS always does this. Windows XP had three or four major updates (service packs). Mac OS X is on v10.8 (i.e. they've updated version 10 8 times). Do you expect them to release it and never release another version of Windows?
Windows service packs were free updates, OSX dot versions are paid.and usually.change everything...
I know, I was making the point that all software gets updated regardless if it's good or bad.