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How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

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Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

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As someone who has written 10k+ loc on simulators, markov chaining, and done tons of analysis on baseball projections... I don't know where to start.

I honestly don't. (You are very, very far off the correct methodology.)

But maybe this is a good place, I guess.

http://www.oakton.edu/user/4/pboisver/AABaseballMath.html

I am not trying to be a jerk. But ask yourself: If it were that trivial, why wouldn't it be a snap to crush online sportsbetting?

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

#22
post #4

My bet is that your model is no better than (weighted) chance to predict the next game. Just run the model on the years before 2012 and you'll see what I mean.

On my phone right now so I can't put this analysis on paper, but this feels a lot like looking at the associative property of addition.

i.e. the author regrouped the data to come up with the same result

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

#23
post #13

Rather than waiting for data from future games, you should backtest on old data and see how it performs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backtesting ). You might also be interested in checking out the book The Signal and The Noise by Nate Silver (He runs the FiveThirtyEight political/data blog that notably predicted last year's election results with great accuracy.)

More relevant--before he did statistical analysis of elections, he was a leading figure in sabermetrics, the statistical analysis of baseball. His program is still one of the best.

And before that, he was an excellent online gambler. Or was it during that time? ;)

PECOTA is alright, but not really his anymore. cwyers took it over at BPro. It's also tough to say if it's one of the best for any number of statistically boring reasons (read Phil Birnbaum's blog for more info).

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

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As someone who has written 10k+ loc on simulators, markov chaining, and done tons of analysis on baseball projections... I don't know where to start. I honestly don't. (You are very, very far off the correct methodology.) But maybe this is a good place, I guess. http://www.oakton.edu/user/4/pboisver/AABaseballMath.html I am not trying to be a jerk. But ask yourself: If it were that trivial, why wouldn't it be a snap…

Agreed. The post isn't clear at all what his goal is, and the methodology makes no sense

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

#25
post #8
post #5

Isn't this an example of the gambler's fallacy, that previous outcomes impact future outcomes?

I understand where you're coming from. My friend's statistics teacher said that if a flipped coin results in 5 heads, it doesn't owe you a tails – this seems to support the gambler's fallacy. Though looking at something like running: say I run the first mile in a race in 7 minutes. Odds are the next mile will be a bit slower given I'm bad at pacing myself and I'm now tired. This is an extreme example, but I've been t…

This is like saying I've accounted for the phase of the moon when predicting my productivity, but in the future I'd like to account for how much sleep I got and whether I've been eating right and exercising.

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

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As a guy who spent years on contract work on sports prediction, i can say this is so naive that even don't worth to be discussed.

To start with, you can't 'predict' result of a single game. You can have some advantage (or more likely, disadvantage) over the quality of the betting like a bookie gives you.

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More relevant--before he did statistical analysis of elections, he was a leading figure in sabermetrics, the statistical analysis of baseball. His program is still one of the best.

And before that, he was an excellent online gambler. Or was it during that time? ;) PECOTA is alright, but not really his anymore. cwyers took it over at BPro. It's also tough to say if it's one of the best for any number of statistically boring reasons (read Phil Birnbaum's blog for more info).

Yeah, PECOTA isn't one of the best at all, it just has ranges for variance, which is an imprecise metric as no one knows what he's saying a percentile is under the model. What is luck and what is skill?

Birnbaum is one of the best bloggers on advanced stuff. Tango's blog is the best period as anyone good participating in the "open source" movement so to speak is there pr shows up when they write good stuff. Until you're aware of the work to date, you will be spinning in circles with awful biased errors.

Re: How I'm Predicting Baseball Outcomes

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post #14
post #5

Isn't this an example of the gambler's fallacy, that previous outcomes impact future outcomes?

If game results were independent, yes. But lots of things in baseball aren't independent: teams play the same opponent repeatedly in short series, runs of home or away series occur, pitchers rotate, players get injured, teams may slack when overperforming or intensify their efforts to avoid extended losing streaks, etc. Most of all: baseballers are fairly superstitious. They believe in streaks, lucky rituals, jinxes,…

Baseball players believe those things, but no one can prove they actually exist.
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