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An Army Is Forming To Battle Patent Trolls

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Re: An Army Is Forming To Battle Patent Trolls

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I tried to measure HN interest in Crowd Sourcing challenges to Patent Trolls ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5573778 ). It is very commendable that rackspace is taking this to task on both fronts, individual patent challenges and lobbying efforts to change the law. However, this also has the immediate effect of encouraging trolls to go after the little guys and no longer companies who can afford litigate.

I always thought that patent holders cannot make money suing the little guys.

Re: An Army Is Forming To Battle Patent Trolls

#12

I tried to measure HN interest in Crowd Sourcing challenges to Patent Trolls ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5573778 ). It is very commendable that rackspace is taking this to task on both fronts, individual patent challenges and lobbying efforts to change the law. However, this also has the immediate effect of encouraging trolls to go after the little guys and no longer companies who can afford litigate.

I always thought that patent holders cannot make money suing the little guys.

But all they have to do is threaten to sue...

Re: An Army Is Forming To Battle Patent Trolls

#14

I tried to measure HN interest in Crowd Sourcing challenges to Patent Trolls ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5573778 ). It is very commendable that rackspace is taking this to task on both fronts, individual patent challenges and lobbying efforts to change the law. However, this also has the immediate effect of encouraging trolls to go after the little guys and no longer companies who can afford litigate.

I always thought that patent holders cannot make money suing the little guys.

Patent trolls try to force them to settle for nominal amounts to avoid litigation, one example I heard is a troll sending demands to the end users of copy machines "that scan to email" instead of the manufacturers and retailers. At that point it is a numbers game if they get 1% of end users to pay $1000 it adds up. Now that is some of the more egregious (maybe unlawful) examples but it will become more common.

Edit: This is a link to one article about my example (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/meet-the-nice-guy...) it seems the troll went after small business and demanded $1,000/employee using the scan to email function.

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post #7

I'm with you! I seem to recall a time when "ly'ers" (lawyers) were prohibited from assuming political office... Now they've taken over.

Just to stick up for my kind a little (lawyers that is), Thomas Jefferson was a 21 year old lawyer when he drafted the Declaration of Independence; good ol' Honest Abe was a lawyer and pushed for the Emancipation Proclamation; and one of my personal favorites is Gandhi. And to stick up for the profession not just a few individuals, when Clinton lied under oath, the only real action taken against him was by his State…

Touche will_brown. Point taken.

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post #7

I'm with you! I seem to recall a time when "ly'ers" (lawyers) were prohibited from assuming political office... Now they've taken over.

Just to stick up for my kind a little (lawyers that is), Thomas Jefferson was a 21 year old lawyer when he drafted the Declaration of Independence; good ol' Honest Abe was a lawyer and pushed for the Emancipation Proclamation; and one of my personal favorites is Gandhi. And to stick up for the profession not just a few individuals, when Clinton lied under oath, the only real action taken against him was by his State…

It could also be argued that they did good things in spite of being lawyers.

Looked up the thing about Thomas Jefferson drafting the Declaration of Independence at 21 and this is what I found in wikipedia [1]:

Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 (April 2, 1743 O.S.) – July 4, 1826) was an American Founding Father, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776)

Seems like he was in his thirties. Care to correct yourself?

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

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post #7

I'm with you! I seem to recall a time when "ly'ers" (lawyers) were prohibited from assuming political office... Now they've taken over.

When and where? In the U.S., 32 of the 55 framers of the Constitution, and 25 of the 56 signers of the declaration of independence, were lawyers.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to stick up for my kind a little (lawyers that is), Thomas Jefferson was a 21 year old lawyer when he drafted the Declaration of Independence; good ol' Honest Abe was a lawyer and pushed for the Emancipation Proclamation; and one of my personal favorites is Gandhi. And to stick up for the profession not just a few individuals, when Clinton lied under oath, the only real action taken against him was by his State…

It could also be argued that they did good things in spite of being lawyers. Looked up the thing about Thomas Jefferson drafting the Declaration of Independence at 21 and this is what I found in wikipedia [1]: Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 (April 2, 1743 O.S.) – July 4, 1826) was an American Founding Father, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776) Seems like he was in his thirties. Care to c…

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Re: An Army Is Forming To Battle Patent Trolls

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post #18
post #7

I'm with you! I seem to recall a time when "ly'ers" (lawyers) were prohibited from assuming political office... Now they've taken over.

When and where? In the U.S., 32 of the 55 framers of the Constitution, and 25 of the 56 signers of the declaration of independence, were lawyers.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsj&fileNam...

Apparently the original text of the 13th Amendment was quite a bit different than what it eventually came to be. Is the appellation "Lawyer" not a "Title?"

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