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Amazon Staff Meetings: “No Powerpoint”

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Re: Amazon Staff Meetings: “No Powerpoint”

#111
I think blanket rules like this are a bit silly. Clearly PP (Powerpoint) has its uses. A picture is still worth 1000 words.

My suggestion would be to have a default ban, but insist that if a presenter really "needs" to use PP (s)he should have to get some sort of permission first. The reason for that is that the person wanting to use PP would then have to consider and justify its use before using it. Basically, just give them pause to think and consider.

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#112

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My girlfirend just showed me Prezi and I love it! Just waiting for an opportunity to using it in a real context!

You should check ImpressJS http://bartaz.github.io/impress.js

That must be one of the worst demos I've ever seen. I got dizzy going through it. Ugh.

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I'm in love with this idea. The information density (in terms of time) of a well written memo is much greater than that of a presentation. Many 30 minute presentations could be read in 5 minutes. The written word is also a great equalizer. A "presenter" can be judged based on their content rather than their public speaking ability.

6 pages is a bit too long, though. In a famous Ranked 1st Consumer Goods company (i'll let you guess which one) all team memos to management are only allowed to be of a single page. This is really hard to adapt to it at the beginning but decision making is so much faster.

Back in the day, President Reagan insisted that all decisions he needed to make be given to him in the form of a one page memo with a yes/no checkbox. We made fun of him for being stupid back then, but now I appreciate the wisdom of it. If he needed to know more, he could always ask, but a one-page yes/no decision forced some efficiency.

Of course, the effectiveness of this approach depends a great deal on the quality of your staff.

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#115

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Isn't it an indicator when you are defending 6 pages not being too long with a "blah blah blah" already?

5th page: Links/resources uhh.. 6th page: "Questions?" page with a cute picture

A detailed diagram or a slightly extended discussion of a topic will easily get you another page.

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> flair Thank you for finally providing me a concise word for so much of what goes on with typical Powerpoint use. -- P.S. For those unfamiliar with the term (in this context). http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flair I was thinking particularly of its use in the movie "Office Space".

"I was thinking particularly of its use in the movie "Office Space"." I didn't invent it, I have personally been subjected to a conversation right out of the movie WRT powerpoint at a previous employer, "Yes, I know you have the corporate minimum of 25 pieces of flair in your powerpoint, but you only have the minimum 25 pieces, and brownnoser over there has 47 pieces of flair in his powerpoint, isn't that great, and…

I... I think I'd quit the company after that conversation.

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#117
post #32

I'm in love with this idea. The information density (in terms of time) of a well written memo is much greater than that of a presentation. Many 30 minute presentations could be read in 5 minutes. The written word is also a great equalizer. A "presenter" can be judged based on their content rather than their public speaking ability.

6 pages is a bit too long, though. In a famous Ranked 1st Consumer Goods company (i'll let you guess which one) all team memos to management are only allowed to be of a single page. This is really hard to adapt to it at the beginning but decision making is so much faster.

They don't have to be 6 pages at Amazon (and the discussion starts after everyone's done reading, not after a prescribed 30-minute period). Oftentimes what is requested is a 2-pager. However, even the 6-page ones are not full of fluff; they're usually packed with data and analysis. Fluff tends to get pulled out pretty aggressively in favor of more information that's been requested sometime during the drafting and review process. By the time a document gets to Jeff, many eyes have seen it.

Re: Amazon Staff Meetings: “No Powerpoint”

#118

I'm in love with this idea. The information density (in terms of time) of a well written memo is much greater than that of a presentation. Many 30 minute presentations could be read in 5 minutes. The written word is also a great equalizer. A "presenter" can be judged based on their content rather than their public speaking ability.

It has been my extensive experience that anyone above mid-level manager will ONLY read a power point -- ie a summary, a graph, and a couple of bullet points. Never a email longer than four sentences and never, ever a report.

Maybe meetings are different?

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post #67

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It does not mean there is less info. It means the info is more dense, more concise, well prepared and summarized and straight to the point. It's not because you have 6 pages that it's a guarantee to avoid putting 5 pages of garbage or unnecessary prose.

It also means you can, by definition, not put more than 1 page of details into a given issue. As usual the Navy/DoD seems to have this figured out: BLUF: "Bottom-Line Up Front": Concise description of the problem, recommended solution w/out corroborating detail. FYSA: "For Your Situational Awareness": This may help the boss understand the problem better, but it isn't something they need to know or understand right no…

> is just as artificial as a 64-KB limit on code page size for executable programs.

Well look at the intros of 64kb, you can still do amazing things with no space :)

Re: Amazon Staff Meetings: “No Powerpoint”

#120

I'm in love with this idea. The information density (in terms of time) of a well written memo is much greater than that of a presentation. Many 30 minute presentations could be read in 5 minutes. The written word is also a great equalizer. A "presenter" can be judged based on their content rather than their public speaking ability.

It has been my extensive experience that anyone above mid-level manager will ONLY read a power point -- ie a summary, a graph, and a couple of bullet points. Never a email longer than four sentences and never, ever a report. Maybe meetings are different?

Its worse than that. In many companies, a slick powerpoint presentation weighs far more than thoughtful analysis. I've done the experiment and presented the same recommendations based on the same logic in two ways. The concise email got a 'good idea we should think about that' - the powerpoint three weeks later (same words, nothing in the business had changed) got a 'brilliant work we need to drop everything and do that now'.

These are smart and capable people too. They're just somehow got this deep bias about only pretty powerpoint could be important.

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