And I think some people will STILL crash on the tunnel anyway. I made a arcade game once: www.abril.com.br/blog/campus-party/2011/01/19/fanatico-por-jogos-leva-seu-proprio-fliperama-para-a-arena/ It has instructions printed on the sides of the screen... It was VERY, VERY, VERY common to someone ask people around them what a button do (sometimes to even random passerby people, or for example a couple arrived at the ma…
You should talk to my mum about it. When anything comes up on her computers' screen, she will just panic and call me or my dad or anyone else, BEFORE even reading what is says. Most conversations look like this: "Hi son, my computer just broke, something came up on the screen and it won't go away" "ok mom, what does it say?" "I don't know, I haven't read it" People are exceedingly good at ignoring information if they…
Sydney tunnel water screen stop sign for oversized vehicles [video]
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#132I'm mildly surprised that requiring trucks to file travel plans has not become a more widespread practice. What with terrorism concerns, and the widespread use of GPS monitors on trucks it's both feasible and plausible. It seems like major metro areas could institute a slightly tighter control of large load vehicles; which could actually benefit from coordinating with traffic control signals in some cases.
Since Garmins and other GPS devices have lane information and speed limit information, you'd think you could punch in your load height and get a route that worked for it.
Anyone want to go collect 500K bridge heights for the database?
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately when we have reliable, safe, self-driving cars, the loudest complainers will be truck drivers who now have to find new careers. I hope I don't sound too mean to hope their concerns are ignored.
I predict legislation saying that certain self-driving vehicles cannot be unmanned. This benefits the truck driver while still maintaining a reason to have one. Besides, someone will still have to fill the thing with diesel. In the long term, though, you're most likely right; truck drivers will have to find new careers. However, said legislation combined with what I believe will be slow adoption due to high cost shou…
Someone can fill the thing with diesel at the gas station. You'll get full-service pumps outside of Oregon and New Jersey! (Another industry that requires regulation to avoid firing unnecessary people).
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you can't read or don't speak english, a sign with text and flashing yellow lights may not be that obvious.
Then you didn't pass your driving exam and get a license. In the US that's required and I suspect most countries require the ability to understand posted signs to get a drivers license. If you're driving without a license, then that's a different issue.
You might be driving abroad on a valid license, just not a license from the country you're driving in. In which case it's perfectly possible the signs wouldn't be in your native language.
Re: Sydney tunnel water screen stop sign for oversized vehicles [video]
#135Put a metal sign on a hinge that is at the too-tall height several hundred feet in front of the tunnel.
When they hit it, they will definitely stop, and replacing the sign is a fraction of the cost of the water sign, which they can drive through anyway.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you see the truck in the video take out an enormous steel beam that was presumably attached to the structure of the tunnel in some kind of permanent way? How would your solution avoid the same fate?
That beam they took out is called a "sacrificial beam." It was not a structural support, but was meant to take the impact before any structural members were damaged. You'll see them on many modern bridges and underpasses.
That's interesting and seems like a good idea, except perhaps it should be paramount that the 20-ton beam NOT fall on the following cars! That is an entirely different meaning of "sacrificial"...
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#137The drivers cannot be not simply ignoring the signs. The sign is telling them that later down the road they will absolutely get in to problems, and get literally stuck. No one would continue with that certainty of getting stuck or in trouble. On top of that, it cant be repeat offenders either. Some one who has been there before must have gotten caught out, one way or another. Its not like drivers on small roads who s…
I have always felt that this is an issue, as i have personally had many problems when interpreting road signage.
For example, i once pissed off some builders by following a truck into their work zone (they were working on a highway lane). The truck had a huge sign on the back that said 'do not follow into work zone', but how can i possibly know if i'm following a truck into a work zone without some indication of where the work zone is? There were no other signs or lights or orange barrels or anything.
Another example is the way exit ramp signage is written where i live. Highway signs don't include units of measure when they refer to distance, so the first few times i saw the sign 'ABC ROAD — 2' i had no idea that it was telling me that the exit for Abc Road was in 2 MILES, not that i was meant to take Exit 2, which happened to be the very next exit after the sign.
The 11foot8 Web site linked elsewhere in the thread mentions that the rail bridge has a flashing sign that says 'OVERHEIGHT WHEN FLASHING'. The site calls this 'pretty good' signage. It makes sense sitting at my computer reading about it, but i can almost guarantee that if i was seeing that sign for the first time on the road i would have absolutely no fucking idea what it was talking about until after i had already crashed into the bridge.
etc.
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#138Why not just have those things which actually hang down and hit the top of your truck showing you that you're too tall?
As for that water sign ... why don't they put it further back and have a way for offending vehicles to exit in front of it? Am I missing something?
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
its because most instructions are unhelpful and a waste time to read, so we're conditioned to ignore them.
Even when you make great, easy to understand documetation, people are fucking lazy. That fact keeps the most of people in our support department employed.
I don't think you read the parent comment.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
its because most instructions are unhelpful and a waste time to read, so we're conditioned to ignore them.
Even when you make great, easy to understand documetation, people are fucking lazy. That fact keeps the most of people in our support department employed.
An important customer once told me "Yes, I have read about the manual, but it is so much easier to call you." - the problem with lazy customers is that they will make false assumptions about what the software does (everyone will probably do this at one time, but not reading the manual / instructions is much more dangerous).
She also refused to upgrade from a 15" monitor to a larger model, so we had to keep the screen layout in accordance with her outdated screen format. (The cost of a new screen would have been negligible compared to the profits).