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U.S. Secretly Obtains Two Months of A.P. Phone Records

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Second amendment's been gone for a while.

Fifth and fourteenth haven't been seen in a minute, either.

Peaceable assembly's overrated anyway. (RNC '04)

How much of the first needs to be gone until it's enough to recognize that the USA is no longer a free society?

How many whistleblowers, security researchers, and cryptographers need to be thrown in prison on bullshit trumped-up charges? How many hunger-striking political prisoners need to be held in secret prisons indefinitely without trial?

How many decades of PATRIOT Act abuses of individual privacy will be enough?

It's time to emigrate. Vote with your tax dollars.

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post #5

Second amendment's been gone for a while. Fifth and fourteenth haven't been seen in a minute, either. Peaceable assembly's overrated anyway. (RNC '04) How much of the first needs to be gone until it's enough to recognize that the USA is no longer a free society? How many whistleblowers, security researchers, and cryptographers need to be thrown in prison on bullshit trumped-up charges? How many hunger-striking politi…

>It's time to emigrate.

http://www.reddit.com/r/iwantout

http://www.reddit.com/r/igotout

Re: U.S. Secretly Obtains Two Months of A.P. Phone Records

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Second amendment's been gone for a while. Fifth and fourteenth haven't been seen in a minute, either. Peaceable assembly's overrated anyway. (RNC '04) How much of the first needs to be gone until it's enough to recognize that the USA is no longer a free society? How many whistleblowers, security researchers, and cryptographers need to be thrown in prison on bullshit trumped-up charges? How many hunger-striking politi…

But to where? There's not much space left on Earth that isn't held by a government that's worse in one regard or another.

Until such time as moon rockets become practical and affordable, I don't see emigration as a viable option.

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Second amendment's been gone for a while. Fifth and fourteenth haven't been seen in a minute, either. Peaceable assembly's overrated anyway. (RNC '04) How much of the first needs to be gone until it's enough to recognize that the USA is no longer a free society? How many whistleblowers, security researchers, and cryptographers need to be thrown in prison on bullshit trumped-up charges? How many hunger-striking politi…

"Second amendment's been gone for a while."

Not even close. True if you live in one of 10 very bad states, two of which oddly are shall issue concealed carry ones that just went very bad (Connecticut and Colorado), but continuing that concealed carry theme, i.e. the "bear" in "the right to keep and bear arms" (RKBA), there's been a nationwide sweep of shall issue, starting in Florida in 1987 and ending with Iowa and Wisconsin in 2011. And Illinois has a Federal court deadline to go shall issue by June 9th. So that's ~42 states and ~2/3rds of the population.

And other good things have happened, and in general the political RKBA Zeitgeist has drastically changed. So there's hope here ... which is important, since it's the ultimate check on an out of control government.

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This is so strange! When was a last time AP released anything that wasn't more than government PR. On many important issues like lead up to Iraq war and now to a potential Iran war, AP has just reported what's been expected of them. My thought is the wiretap was set to catch potential whistleblowers than to do anything with reporters or AP itself.
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