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Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by aidenn0 »

znowi wrote: post #84
megablast wrote: post #16

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Samsung have a lot of money, and a lot of resources to through behind making their software work better. I find it hard to believe that is that hard to get right. If they had any sense they should buy BB or Palm OS.

A lot of people don't remember Palm OS, but as someone who owned a Palm TX device, I have most fond memories of it. And I still consider it the best handheld device that I had (including my current Nexus 4) in terms of both design and UI, and user control, and battery life, which lasted up to a week! It was a real bummer to see it go. I still miss it.

I lost my Android phone, so am currently using my wife's old centro. It's amazing how many things it does as well or better than the android phone did (battery life being the biggest one).

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by nfriedly »

nwh wrote: post #38
emanuer wrote: post #7

The Samsung software I have seen on their TVs, laptops, phones has been adequate at best. I wish them best of luck developing another closed ecosystem. However their track record of developing good, functioning software is not very promising. When you use Apple products everything is tied into Apple. I didn't like some parts of their ecosystem (Itunes). It is all or nothing for Apple, so I said farewell and moved on.…

> The Samsung software I have seen on their TVs, laptops, phones has been adequate at best. You've clearly used a Samsung SmartTV then. The software is so slow, so clunky, so unreliable; it's a hair pulling exercise just waiting for the thing to load (1-2 minutes to bring up the dashboard). Its bad enough to justify hauling the thing back to the shop and getting a refund.

So true. But the worst part is when their software update servers go down. Apparently SmartTV phones home about every 5 minutes or so, and when Samsung's servers are offline for any reason the TV pops up an annoying box in the middle of the screen telling you that your internet isn't working. Even if you're just watching TV or a DVD.

I contacted Samsung and they told me not to use my TV and that it should be fine the next day. In the end, I factory-reset my TV and didn't give it the wi-fi password.

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by znowi »

aidenn0 wrote: post #111
znowi wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people don't remember Palm OS, but as someone who owned a Palm TX device, I have most fond memories of it. And I still consider it the best handheld device that I had (including my current Nexus 4) in terms of both design and UI, and user control, and battery life, which lasted up to a week! It was a real bummer to see it go. I still miss it.

I lost my Android phone, so am currently using my wife's old centro. It's amazing how many things it does as well or better than the android phone did (battery life being the biggest one).

You may want to check one of those "lost/stolen Android" apps for your next Android. They allow you to control device remotely, find out GPS location, erase SD card, etc. Quite useful.

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by myko »

sbuk wrote: post #94
myko wrote: post #67

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> They are good but not significantly better than Apple's built in ones. I guess I'll agree to disagree here. Apple's first party apps significantly behind Google's in my opinion. > Unfortunately Apple just doesn't give third party apps any room to expand beyond its tiny little sandbox. This is unfortunate, but it looks like Google is working hard to make its own applications interop nicely and directly, even with th…

"Apple's first party apps significantly behind Google's in my opinion." Care to elaborate?

Sure. I find the Mail app to be ugly when compared to Gmail and more frustrating to use. Chrome seems to handle text much better than Safari, and the syncing is more convenient to me (because the tabs sync with my Android/Linux devices as well probably). Apple Maps seems to give pretty poor directions relative to Google Maps (just last weekend 2 of my family members got lost on their way to a family party because they used Apple Maps and it took them to the opposite side of town). Everyone using Google Maps made it just fine. Siri's voice recognition feels much slower and less accurate than Google Now.

Any major apps I'm missing?

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by deweerdt »

neckbeard wrote: post #82
deweerdt wrote: post #42

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I thought this was more due to the 'embedded' culture. After all, under VxWorks, isn't all memory addressable by all processes?

That's ancient VxWorks (sadly still shipping in some places, however). More recent VxWorks - i.e. anything 6.x, since 2004 - has memory protection.

He, it's been a while. Thanks for the correction.

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by Volpe »

DominikR wrote: post #104
Volpe wrote: post #103

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Google Play Store... is an android app.

It is not allowed to use any part of Googles Services for Android on a non Android device. Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Lice... https://source.android.com/compatibility/index.html

Well the play store could be classified as Not a "Google Service for Android".

Much like Gmail, and search are... I don't know how google would play it. But they could do a number of things.

Re: Samsung is hurting Android

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Post by Oletros »

sbuk wrote: post #93
Oletros wrote: post #87

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You know that, shockingly, there is a world outside USA?

Ah, the "that's only true for the US..." meme, which always lacks any kind of graph or reputable article supporting the assertion. I don't actually disbelieve it at all - Samsung have a lot of different devices on sale - but the trite assertion that 'marketshare = victory!' is entirely pointless. No, I won't search for it myself. You asserted it, so the burden of proof lies with you.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130516005342/en/Andr...
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