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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by taproot »

yareally wrote: post #236
d23 wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As for quora, well they are run by people who wants to make the world a worse place to be, so no surprise there. I actually quite like Quora. Any particular reason for the hate?

Forced registration to read it would be my guess. Nothing else against it really personally. Some people just don't like having to create an account to (passively) participate in a community. I read hacker news for well over a year before I decided to create an actual account for posting. If I feel I reach a point I can contribute something useful to a community, that is when I create an account. However, I think for…

Even then, creating an account to post to a community is an absurd idea in the first place, why do you need my email, name, dob, and social security number to post on a bloody internet forum and contribute content to your website?

There is your usual suspects: combat spam and the anonymous coward effect but even then there is many ways to combat these without invading my privacy / lessening my security online.

I think it mostly comes down to lazy analytics and shitty metrics. "we have xx registered users",90% of those are made up of shell accounts and inactive users but at least the numbers sound good.

This app thing is just the new incarnation of shitty metrics and the same old story of

developer: oo new tech, me want to makey makey.

boss: can you justify it, isn't our mobile site fine?

developer: waaaaaah

boss: ok ok, jesus, fuck. Just, we'll have to make sure users actually install it though, or we'll be out of the job.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by click170 »

pullo wrote: post #98

Reading through the comments I am glad I am not the only one who finds over the top profanity upsetting. Yes , the author is free to make his/her point any way they want to. and No, not everyone who thinks that this profanity is undue is a prude. and I dont think it is fair to make a culture or age characterization based on a user's response. Extreme or sometimes, any profanity changes the tone of the article. that a…

I think it's interesting that you find the author's use of profanity to be strong and forceful. I found it to be comical and colorful, and extremely relatable.

They (companies) may have reasons, but their motivations are not parallel with my own.

a) It's very nice that you spent a lot of money on your app, but please don't pester me at every pageload to use said app. I'll choose my own medium, thank you kindly.

b) I understand that the app can be more functional than the site. This is often why I intentionally use the site instead of the app, to prevent sites like Facebook and LinkedIn from messing with my address book, as they have both demonstrated they will do at their convenience. This is unacceptable to me.

c) I completely understand retaining user engagement, but my point is that by pushing and shoving me towards your app when I have already assessed both and chose the website will simply drive me away from both. Good job.

d) This is why I don't want your app on my phone. Your app isn't important enough to me to deserve said mental space, and until I decide that it is, you don't deserve it.

I agree with you that a small toolbar would be sufficient, and I'm disappointed that more sites don't do this, but I would add that I think it's important to have an option tucked away in the user preferences so that I can disable said toolbar if I choose to use the website.

I'm up-voting your comment not because I think you're correct, but because you have interesting arguments which could foster good discussion. And I would do so regardless of your use of profanity.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by robocat »

steveax wrote: post #192
tomjen3 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Onswipe. Yeah that is another company that has decided to make world a worse place. What I can't understand in how they got so many content owners to ruin their websites by using their crap.

Indeed, I hate, hate onswipe "enhanced" sites. Bad enough you have to wait for the redirect and then all the assets to load (they are always slow) but then there are even more annoyances. There is no way to retain a preference for the regular site (at least not without allowing 3rd party cookies) and then they spawn a new window when you choose to view the desktop site! I've stopped visiting sites that use onswipe. T…

From: http://www.onswipe.com/demo

"This site is a dish best served on an iPad"

"The content you’re trying to view has been optimized for viewing on the iPad, unfortunately there’s no desktop alternative available right now."

#doorslam on Android or Win8 tablet

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dredmorbius »

incision wrote: post #29

I have at least one anecdotal perspective on app proliferation. Currently, I'm struggling with higher-ups who have decided that we must have apps. They don't know what these apps will do or who will use them, simply that we have to start pushing out apps because, well - others have apps. Therefore, we must have apps too. They don't seem to care that the apps they envy have dismal reviews and download stats, that we l…

And that's why this infection is a meme. It's management-fad-of-the-week driven.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dredmorbius »

cognivore wrote: post #102

This gives me an idea. Wouldn't it be cool if had some sort of run-time environment/virtual machine that everyone could target for their applications, where it used some sort of markup for forms and layout and a built in language for automation. It could post back to your server to send and receive data. Everyone could use that instead of their own native app that has to be downloaded. I'm sure there would be some ch…

Nobody but physicists would ever use anything like that.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dredmorbius »

shurcooL wrote: post #4

I agree. In most cases, mobile apps are just fancy website bookmarks with a few more advanced abilities (native code, more hardware access, permanent local storage)... Except you have to download the app, organize it within all your other apps, download updates, delete it when you no longer use it, make sure its settings are in order, etc. Imagine you had to download an app on your desktop computer before you were ab…

Except that they also break bookmarks, deep linking, and the ability to share content other than how the app itself dictates.

Most "shares" are _still_ links copied in emails if I'm remembering apocrypha correctly.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dredmorbius »

ancarda wrote: post #120

On a positive note, almost all of these offer to say "no" to the app.

Which is forgotten when you reset cookies. So you'll get the nag. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.
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