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Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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As stated in the article, the "point" is to have the same functionality for a fraction of the cost. You can still run image editing software or whatever you'd run on your workstation using NX. That's somewhat inconvenient, but then it boots faster with no malware, and you are guaranteed nothing important is only stored locally. So it's a trade-off, not a "crippling" as you've put it. Some folks, like the author, bare…

I can get the same functionality in terms of hardware at the more or less same cost, certainly not $1000 more as you claim. A 1.7gighz ARM or the other versions aren't more powerful than a 1.6gighz or higher Atom processor at the same price point. And I can run a real operating system on that hardware with no problems. My laptop boots in less than 10 seconds and I trust Ubuntu just as much as a Chromebook for securit…

Can you link to this notebook you're talking about? I'd love a $200 notebook that's better than a Chromebook.

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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Any cheap old laptop works just as well if not better if you just want to use ssh into another box! I personaly snapped up a nice Asus netbook with built in 3g modem, wifi and bluetooth and cuts a lovely battery life. But a nice cheap chromebook is probably the best option for most unless you can find a cheap netbook of comparable use. Though ironicly none have beat my old psion 5mx ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi…

A cheap netbook of the same price will invariably be worse in some way, since the Windows license cost is included, so they've had to cut corners somewhere, and it might not show in the specs list, but in the build quality of the device, its thinness/lightness, the quality of the display, etc

Not necessarily. Dell sold Ubuntu laptops that cost more than the Windows one, because they made money by charging software companies to have their software bundled with Windows. There's also the issue of scale- a production run of Linux laptops would sell considerably less than Windows ones.

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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I don't see the point in using a crippled operating system when it will prevent you from quickly editing a low res screen cast or editing an image in the GIMP. Machines in that price range have enough performance to do some of these tasks even if they're not optimal for them. If I'm on the move away from a bigger system I might still need to do it though, so not having that capacity just because of someone's "in the…

Genuinely curious, since I've used every nexus device to date: which ones disable tethering? I can't recall one that does.

Nexus 7 3G bought outright entirely separately to any plan or network carrier. Tethering is entirely disabled and many forums confirm this.

And while I theoretically could I am not going to install a "cracked" version of Android from a l33td00d7 user on a php forum just to get a fundamentally basic and useful networking feature which is present in other installs of Android and which there was no reason to turn off. The whole point of buying a Nexus device was to get away from the crap modifications (like the constant nagging, with a loud beep, to update the "Facebook integration" stuff from my phone's manufacturer which can't be turned off) and lack of basic updates on non-pure Android devices. I wanted a pure Android experience, one of my strong desires was to use it for tethering, Google promised a pure experience and it was a deception (can't remember if it was actually stated somewhere in the fine print, but I certainly read loads about the specifications before purchase and didn't see any mention of it).

It's a disgrace and, along with a series of other pointless Apple-like restrictions worming their way into Android, it confirms Google is fully prepared to cripple things in the name of profits. And it's not even their own profits in this case, it was likely done at the behest of carriers and hugely damages what Nexus was supposed to be about and their brand, so it's even crazier.

So while Canonical might try to put Amazon integration into the Unity bar, they know that you have to be able to turn it off or they will lose their users. The people at Google on the other hand know they can get away with it, although they might lose a few power users (post hoc, after taking their cash and disappointing them) they'd get a few more tie-ins with carriers, so they did it. What bugs me is that lots of people here work for Google and like to think of themselves as hackers fighting the good fight at the "do no evil" company. No, hackers don't ship devices with basic networking features crippled whilst pretending it's a restriction free device.

I can't wait to wipe Android off my Nexus 7 once there is a robust Ubuntu release for it, and my next phone almost certainly won't be Android.

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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I just don't understand this attempts to use shitty and cheap piece of hardware to do development. You are not coding for food, right? Why bother yourself trying to use something that will make you so counterproductive?

Need powerful something - get desktop.

Need something slim and sexy - get f* macbookair

Need both - get pro

Need internet connection on the go - get nexus if you use tablet.

Oh don't need it -use tetering on your phone.

It is expensive - get Clear device

Yes, it will need more money than shitty chromebook, but you are making money with it, so it's worth _investing_ in your everyday companion a little.

What I'm missing?

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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I don't see the point in using a crippled operating system when it will prevent you from quickly editing a low res screen cast or editing an image in the GIMP. Machines in that price range have enough performance to do some of these tasks even if they're not optimal for them. If I'm on the move away from a bigger system I might still need to do it though, so not having that capacity just because of someone's "in the…

"crippled operating system" is far from reality. It is proper Linux on x86 with GUI layer. It is very easy to install proper desktop environment (such as KDE or Gnome) and use it as normal laptop. Intellij Idea runs just fine on Chromebook. Only problem is small disk space (16GB).

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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I just don't understand this attempts to use shitty and cheap piece of hardware to do development. You are not coding for food, right? Why bother yourself trying to use something that will make you so counterproductive? Need powerful something - get desktop. Need something slim and sexy - get f * macbookair Need both - get pro Need internet connection on the go - get nexus if you use tablet. Oh don't need it -use tet…

What boggles my mind is that articles where people code X that does Y where Y is completely "useless" to 90%+ of the population get all the touchy feelies from HN, but when it comes to something laptop/netbook/desktop/cheap workstation related, it turns into a slamfest like this and the current top comment. Why is that?

What are /you/ missing? You're missing that he got a piece of hardware that's relatively closed down and made it useful him. Yes, none of that revolves around you, so tough luck. The end.

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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Any cheap old laptop works just as well if not better if you just want to use ssh into another box! I personaly snapped up a nice Asus netbook with built in 3g modem, wifi and bluetooth and cuts a lovely battery life. But a nice cheap chromebook is probably the best option for most unless you can find a cheap netbook of comparable use. Though ironicly none have beat my old psion 5mx ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi…

A cheap netbook of the same price will invariably be worse in some way, since the Windows license cost is included, so they've had to cut corners somewhere, and it might not show in the specs list, but in the build quality of the device, its thinness/lightness, the quality of the display, etc

Since the tablet fad, netbooks have stagnated and some lovely models for sale at silly cheap prices. As for this windows TAX, well, you are not oblidged to use it and the one I got was half the price of a Chromebook, what more can one say.

Re: Chromebook can make a surprisingly sweet machine for a developer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can get the same functionality in terms of hardware at the more or less same cost, certainly not $1000 more as you claim. A 1.7gighz ARM or the other versions aren't more powerful than a 1.6gighz or higher Atom processor at the same price point. And I can run a real operating system on that hardware with no problems. My laptop boots in less than 10 seconds and I trust Ubuntu just as much as a Chromebook for securit…

Can you link to this notebook you're talking about? I'd love a $200 notebook that's better than a Chromebook.

It's called a Chromebook with Ubuntu on it.
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