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HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

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Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

#41
If I read your page on my desktop, JavaScript was off - unless I had forgotten to revoke temporary permissions after whitelidting Google analytics on another page.

Which illustrates that Google analytics reports something, but what it reports is what it reports. To put it another way, Google Analytics records information useful to Google. What it reports back to the datapoint is designed to appear useful to the datapoint. The purpose of the information provided is solely to encourage the datapoint to keep using Google Analytics so that Google can keep using the datapoint's website to track people on the internet.

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

#44
Paul, you may want to compare raw web server logs to the numbers you get from GA. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big discrepancy, especially when there's HN in the mix. Moreover, those who are nerdy enough to surf with tracking scripts blocked might be the ones who actually read the article ;)

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

#45

These data are not being interpreted correctly. Analytics calculates time-on-page based on the time between loads of the google JS embedded in your pages. Any visitor who 'bounces' - that is, only visits a single page - only loads the JS once, so their time-on-page is recorded as 0 seconds, regardless of how long they actually spent on the page.

The time on site is calculated as the time on the last page hit (or engagement hit) minus the time of the first page hit.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1006253?hl=en

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

#46
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reasonably sure, unless I'm misinterpreting something: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1006253?hl=en

I`ve read that doc, and it looks like you are right. Now i`m even more courious how they measure single hit reading time.

What is your pages per visit number?

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

#47
I rarely read even the articles with interesting titles that make it to HN's front page.

This is because when I did read more of them, they usually turned out to be a lot less interesting than the ensuing discussion on HN.

So now I use the HN discussion as a proxy for article quality. In the HN discussion I can often find a good summary of the article and get a sense of whether the article is likely to be worth reading or not.

Only maybe 1 out of 10 articles or less that I look interesting to me on HN wind up ones that I actually bother to click through. And of the ones I click through, only 1 out of 10 wind up deserving of being read rather than skimmed.

Some years back, there were a couple of "HN Full Feed" type RSS feeds, that would send the contents of the entire linked article, so I could read them without even bothering to go on to the web site.

I valued these services not only because they were more convenient in that it made clicking through and waiting for the aritcle to load no longer necessary, but also because there'd be less tracking of my interests this way.

I also have javascript disabled for 99% of the sites I visit, and am considering starting to use TOR for more of my browsing. It's really nobody's business what I'm reading, and it's a real pity the Internet wasn't built with more inherent privacy and anonymity features.

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

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post #42
post #36

A post that estimated how many HN visitors block Google Analytics would be useful.

It may surprise you, but HN visitors are pretty low on the scale of privacy-concerned. /. and /g/ are far more active in using privacy tools.

That's not too surprising as a decent percentage of HN visitors are currently making tools that destroy privacy.

Re: HN front page, 16000 visitors in a day, how many actually read the article?

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post #48
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may surprise you, but HN visitors are pretty low on the scale of privacy-concerned. /. and /g/ are far more active in using privacy tools.

That's not too surprising as a decent percentage of HN visitors are currently making tools that destroy privacy.

s/destroy/monetize/
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