Somewhat off-topic, but...
Is it not a little strange that neither the demo nor the IE-8 Home page does any checking for non-applicable conditions. For example the fact that I'm browsing with Safari(OS X)? [ Whereas visiting Mozilla always seems to know what downloads it ought to offer. ]
IE 6 Update
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Re: IE 6 Update
#22"IE6 is like an illness that won't go away" - so true. :)
IE6 is the Netscape 4 of our time :-(
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#23In my consulting work I see a lot of usage data from sites of all sizes, and there is a correlation between dial-up users and IE6 users. I assume that dial-up users don't download Microsoft updates because of the download time and the frequency of updates. At this point, it's probably fair to say that IE6 users will only upgrade if they get broadband or replace their computer with one that has a better browser pre-in…
In my experience, if you ask the people who use IE6 why they don't upgrade most of them will respond with something like "What's IE6? Oh you mean Internet Explorer. What's wrong with the one I have?" and then if you finally convince them they they should upgrade you have to explain to them how to do it, which for most people who are still using IE6 can be a big challenge. My grandmother uses IE6. She says it works an…
She doesn't care that you app doesn't render properly
Most people who have IE6 are either too ignorant to care if your site renders incorrectly or know that they are forced to use this browser for some reason. The former group probably isn't using your next gen web 2.0 fancy pants app anyway, and the later group has seen so many broken websites (at work) that they look right past the problems or try again when they get home.
In general, all you need to do is ensure your site WORKS AT ALL in IE6. It doesn't need to look perfect, just not be broken. But honestly, I might just serve them the mobile version with a warning on top...
Re: IE 6 Update
#24While well-intentioned, this phishing-like technique seems at the very least a disingenuous method of getting people to switch. I think there are other ie-update js floating around that get the point across without having to masquerade.
Another month, another lets try and kill ie6. Reminds me of the mass attempts that were made to try and get everyone to ie6 in the first place.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, if you ask the people who use IE6 why they don't upgrade most of them will respond with something like "What's IE6? Oh you mean Internet Explorer. What's wrong with the one I have?" and then if you finally convince them they they should upgrade you have to explain to them how to do it, which for most people who are still using IE6 can be a big challenge. My grandmother uses IE6. She says it works an…
She doesn't care that you app doesn't render properly I think this is the most important point, but it is made so rarely! Most people who have IE6 are either too ignorant to care if your site renders incorrectly or know that they are forced to use this browser for some reason. The former group probably isn't using your next gen web 2.0 fancy pants app anyway, and the later group has seen so many broken websites (at w…
That's not a bad idea... serving the mobile version to IE6, because as time goes on, and as more people are using smart phones with modern browsers, browsers that are more powerful than IE6, IE6 starts to look more and more like an ancient mobile browser anyway.
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#26On casual (read: non-business) sites, I just put in some kind of fun little insult. Example: http://dkpfiles.com/pias/pics/f941GOZ66b29i2Q2Z.jpg
This is just too phishy and does instill bad habits in users who (using IE6) already don't have good habits.
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#27The simplest thing we can do against IE6 is: don't support it anymore. Build your sites like if IE6 does not exist and the problem will auto-fix in short time.
This only works if everyone stops supporting IE6 together.
But if your site doesn't work on IE6, and your competitor's site (of comparable quality) does, you're going to lose traffic to him.
I mean, this is basically the prisoner's dilemma. Nobody wins unless we all win together.
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#28I think this is unethical and it won't work anyway, the people who still have IE6 have ignored warnings like this for years or don't have control.
I saw someone using XP the other day who didn't know that other browsers existed (other than IE) and Safari was even installed but she didn't know how it got there (I suspect quicktime) or what it was. The IE(7) she had crashed on virtually every link she clicked on due to an old toolbar that probably only worked properly with IE6. The machine was also dead slow due to 512MB memory and loads of task-tray stuff.
Although she already had IE7 I could easily imagine, similar users not being capable of doing upgrades especially on dial up or not wanting to because it might break.
I would have thought the best thing a lot of people could do for the web is actually offer to sort out a few of their non-techy friends computers, which I think would be more effective than a warning message.
Re: IE 6 Update
#29In my consulting work I see a lot of usage data from sites of all sizes, and there is a correlation between dial-up users and IE6 users. I assume that dial-up users don't download Microsoft updates because of the download time and the frequency of updates. At this point, it's probably fair to say that IE6 users will only upgrade if they get broadband or replace their computer with one that has a better browser pre-in…
In my experience, if you ask the people who use IE6 why they don't upgrade most of them will respond with something like "What's IE6? Oh you mean Internet Explorer. What's wrong with the one I have?" and then if you finally convince them they they should upgrade you have to explain to them how to do it, which for most people who are still using IE6 can be a big challenge. My grandmother uses IE6. She says it works an…
M bank and the tax site don't render correctly in Opera but work with IE6. If they can't be bothered making them work in a 100% ACID browser how do I know it will work in IE7?
Re: IE 6 Update
#30I think some MS guys made this to help trasit people from IE6 to IE8 (better than they do choose FF or Chrome)!!