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Re: Amazon was down

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I'd suspect not a lot. The number that gets tossed around is based on the whole year's sales divided by downtime - but that fails to account for seasonality. The retail market in the USA can be accurately summarized as "slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle MASSIVE DELUGE OMG OMG slow trickle slow trickle..." It would shock people how much consumer spending is shoved into the November-December time fram…

Also, a lot of the "lost" orders during the down time will actually just be delayed. I imagine most people will just try to place their order again tomorrow

That depends too. I suspect at this time of year it's true - during the holidays I wouldn't bank on it. When people are gift shopping downtime easily means the difference between a sale and the customer jumping in their car and running down to the Toys 'R Us.

Downtime is a Big Deal during the high retail season, and not really a big deal outside of it.

Re: Amazon was down

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I wonder how many millions are lost per minute of downtime.

I'd suspect not a lot. The number that gets tossed around is based on the whole year's sales divided by downtime - but that fails to account for seasonality. The retail market in the USA can be accurately summarized as "slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle MASSIVE DELUGE OMG OMG slow trickle slow trickle..." It would shock people how much consumer spending is shoved into the November-December time fram…

Today is a deluge of last minute mother's day sales.

Re: Amazon was down

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I wonder how many millions are lost per minute of downtime.

I'd suspect not a lot. The number that gets tossed around is based on the whole year's sales divided by downtime - but that fails to account for seasonality. The retail market in the USA can be accurately summarized as "slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle slow trickle MASSIVE DELUGE OMG OMG slow trickle slow trickle..." It would shock people how much consumer spending is shoved into the November-December time fram…

Today is a deluge of last minute mother's day sales.

Re: Amazon was down

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At least AWS is still up!

It's usually the reverse... AWS goes down but Amazon carries on quite happily

> AWS goes down but Amazon carries on quite happily

Usually more like “isolated parts of AWS go down and people who didn't follow Amazon's deployment guidelines complain”

Re: Amazon was down

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We are talking about Amazon.com, not AWS. They are completely independent services

Amazon.com does run on EC2. You can bet that if EC2 had a a complete regional outage (which is extremely rare) Amazon.com would be down. In general Amazon.com makes extensive use of AWS services internally as well, but it's very well architected to handle service outages without it being immediately obvious to the end user.

Amazon.com doesn't run on EC2.

Re: Amazon was down

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Amazon.com does run on EC2. You can bet that if EC2 had a a complete regional outage (which is extremely rare) Amazon.com would be down. In general Amazon.com makes extensive use of AWS services internally as well, but it's very well architected to handle service outages without it being immediately obvious to the end user.

Amazon.com doesn't run on EC2.

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