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My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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Reminds me of http://hackertyper.net/ -- several characters appear for each keystroke :D

I think you crashed their site :).

>>Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /var/www/html/hackertyper/config.php on line 6 DB Error, overload!!!! Crap, system crashed :/Interesting how a single well placed post can achieve so much.

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the client is 'not worth it' you're just not charging enough. Just work out what your price is and send them a new quote. Don't ever fire a client, that's just silly. Make the client say no.

What's the price for your mental health?

At $50,000 per hour, I'd do 40 hours of work for a hideous client.

We're not talking about murder or anything with risk to life. We're talking about dealing with assholes. There is a price (theoretically) that makes that OK, so long as it's time-limited. Of course, the client will almost certainly not agree to $50k per hour, but isn't that kind of the point?

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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In this case, it's probably a good idea to fire the customer. These types of outrageous requests don't exist in a vacuum. People like this are very difficult to deal with, tend to be very miserly, and will be a non-stop headache. The customer will question everything you do, why you did certain things a certain way (even if he or she has no idea what they are talking about), etc. Drop kick this customer from your lif…

If the client is 'not worth it' you're just not charging enough. Just work out what your price is and send them a new quote. Don't ever fire a client, that's just silly. Make the client say no.

According to the article:

"...The customer considers that if I don't want to record the video, it's because I have something to hide and want to lie about the real time spent on his project".

Dealing with a client that tells you from the outset that they believe you are going to lie to them isn't merely an annoyance. It presents a risk to your career. This client will never be satisfied, or trust a word you say. He will inevitably sue or trash your reputation because, in the end, it isn't possible to satisfy delusional clients. That risk isn't worth any amount of money.

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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I wouldn't advice trying the technical arguments ("the video could be faked!" etc) since the client is clearly unfamiliar with freelancing and these arguments would simply serve to confuse. Either 'yes' or 'no', the 'yes' having whatever caveats you want to go with it.

I've never freelanced, but I've spent a lot of time doing support, and I know what kind of personality is being dealt with here. The solution the poster has come up with is probably the best one apart from firing the customer (not always fiscally possible)

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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My thinking is this:

If you fire the customer, then in the customer's mind (s)he was right to be concerned, and you just proved it by running away.

Contract in place, signed. Keep all records of the unreasonable request and attempt to change the contract conditions. Do the work. Bill the customer. Sue if they don't pay.

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the price for your mental health?

At $50,000 per hour, I'd do 40 hours of work for a hideous client. We're not talking about murder or anything with risk to life. We're talking about dealing with assholes. There is a price (theoretically) that makes that OK, so long as it's time-limited. Of course, the client will almost certainly not agree to $50k per hour, but isn't that kind of the point?

I had a boss who was a bit too ... stressed ... for a while. You just couldn't reason with him about it.

In the end I solved it. I wrote in an email that he was just too stressed and really needed some time off, so he started to attack me personally.

I wrote to him then that he should take what he just wrote and show it to his parents or some other persons he had trust in, and ask them how he was doing. He finally realized he had behaved as a complete asshole for a while.

No, it wasn't a permanent solution. But he took a long, long, long vacation half a year later.

I might work for him again, but I'd keep a reserve plan and be out of the door quite directly. Life is too short.

Edit: Too small company to have an HR department. (I might add: I don't know if I succeeded, or he got himself under control when a quarter of the people quit and the rest had the CV out or at least updating it.)

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the client is 'not worth it' you're just not charging enough. Just work out what your price is and send them a new quote. Don't ever fire a client, that's just silly. Make the client say no.

> If the client is 'not worth it' you're just not charging enough. Just work out what your price is and send them a new quote. Don't ever fire a client, that's just silly. Make the client say no. I disagree. The more you charge the more you put yourself at risk—nominating some insane figure to scare him off is just as silly as his request (or close to it). There is nothing wrong with not taking on work or firing a cl…

Yup. Sometimes you have to just bite the bullet and fire them.

We had someone approach us a few years ago we really didn't want to work with as everything they did screamed "moron in a hurry", so, rather than telling them to naff off, we gave them a quote that should have caused cardiac arrest.

They agreed to it.

Two years on. Still working with them. No amount of money makes it worth it. Particularly given that they still haven't paid said insane quote.

Re: My customer wants me to record a video of how I develop his software product

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the client is 'not worth it' you're just not charging enough. Just work out what your price is and send them a new quote. Don't ever fire a client, that's just silly. Make the client say no. I disagree. The more you charge the more you put yourself at risk—nominating some insane figure to scare him off is just as silly as his request (or close to it). There is nothing wrong with not taking on work or firing a cl…

Yup. Sometimes you have to just bite the bullet and fire them. We had someone approach us a few years ago we really didn't want to work with as everything they did screamed "moron in a hurry", so, rather than telling them to naff off, we gave them a quote that should have caused cardiac arrest. They agreed to it. Two years on. Still working with them. No amount of money makes it worth it. Particularly given that they…

If they haven't paid in two years shouldn't you be suing them?
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