right...
so you're not allowed to download the plans for a gun, but you are allowed to buy a rifle for a 5 year old. For me, it seems this is just someone trying to protect their income.
US Government Takes Down 3D Printed Gun Plans
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#42$100 to the first person that can encode the plans on a t-shirt (but you have to send me a shirt)
Assuming your size is XXL and can read the fine print
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#44Meanwhile, I grabbed it off TPB and, judging by the number of seeds, was hardly the first to think of doing so. Why the USG thinks it can put the cat back in the bag is beyond me.
they're adding hurdles, the more friction involved in the process the lower the conversion rate for the amount of people who will have the template.
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#45http://www.scribd.com/doc/140471313/Letter-from-Department-o... The letter references a number of items besides the printable gun, including "125mm BK-14M high-explosive anti-tank warhead" Which sounds rather closer to matching the intent of the munitions export regulations.
It's just another file on the defcad site, usual government confusion around files hosted on the internet. You can pick up most of what you need to know about anti-tank warheads from a Tom Clancy book, or any library book about shaped charges. For most people an anti-tank warhead is going to be useless in the context of how to disable a tank.
Or just surf to the Wikipedia if you are too lazy to go the library. Example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_formed_penetrator
Of course, perusing the above link, it would seem the main limitation on proliferation is chemical synthesis of the HE, not 3D printing technology.
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#46What's going to be hilarious is when the NRA works against homemade guns because they don't actually represent gun owners but gun manufacturers and people finally start getting the point of lobbyists. Going to get some popcorn and watch y'all fight each other over who gets to have the most toys to accidentally kill their friends and family with.
Can I just upvote the first line of your reply?
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#47What's going to be hilarious is when the NRA works against homemade guns because they don't actually represent gun owners but gun manufacturers and people finally start getting the point of lobbyists. Going to get some popcorn and watch y'all fight each other over who gets to have the most toys to accidentally kill their friends and family with.
> Going to get some popcorn and watch y'all fight each other over who gets to have the most toys to accidentally kill their friends and family with.
Yup, that's what these threads inevitably turn into. For some not-so-odd reason, they are really good at making opinionated people come out of the woodwork.
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#48Wow, this is unbelieveable... I didn't realize they had this power, or that they'd exercise it like that... it's just scary to think that the internet is not as free or open as it feels or appears.
This is nothing new, only the newly digitized weapon de jour is changing. Remember back in the nineties when exporting encryption was the hot topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_in...
The only actual difference being that cryptography never killed anyone...
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it's legal to manufacture guns (that would normally be legal) for personal use in the United States without any permit or license or anything. Also they're not saying the data is illegal, it just may be illegal to "export".
Yes, but if you use these instructions, which they've limited the distribution of, you'd be hard pressed to explain where you got them from. ATF agent: Oh, you got that from a torrent? Did you also seed the file? You can see where this is going, and it doesn't have a happy ending. If you do make one of these though, for the love of God embed a chunk of metal. These things wouldn't be legal without it (metal detectors…
A firing pin?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is nothing new, only the newly digitized weapon de jour is changing. Remember back in the nineties when exporting encryption was the hot topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_in...
The only actual difference being that cryptography never killed anyone...
it saved lives probably, can't have that, verboten.