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LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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Facebook does the same thing and it's just as creepy. I closed my "real" account around 2011. A few months back I created a new blank account because I needed access to a couple organization's pages. The only information on that account is my name (a fairly common one) and an email address which is different from the one on my original account. It's possible they have some geographic info linking the two accounts as…

I set up a test Facebook account while doing a Facebook app that uses an e-mail address that has never been used for anything else. Yet it keeps suggesting people I actually know. The second account also does not have my full name (if it had my full name it'd be less weird, as my name to my knowledge is globally unique - there's only a few hundred people with my last name worldwide) The account has not been used for…

They're probably using the IP.

What is worse is that 1. There is no way to actually delete the data. From what I can see, they only disable the account if you ask them to delete. 2. Even if you didn't give any of your data to FB, your friends/family etc can - there is simply no way to prevent this (a friend takes a picture of you at a party, tags it with your name etc)

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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I'm not advocating anything like that. I'm saying before criticizing Google for trying to avoid or change the laws, it may be useful to consider if these laws are actually good idea. If they are not, all props to Google for trying to circumvent or repeal them. I do not see why one needs "legal standard" to evaluate somebody's actions. Why not use the standard that is supposed to be the base for the legal standard ins…

You need a legal standard because the Russian censorship you describe is a matter of existing law. Also, note Yahoo's experiences with France.

It is a matter of law - means the government wants to enforce it. But why I have to agree with it? I do not have any obligation to respect anything the government of Russia or Iran does.

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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I set up a test Facebook account while doing a Facebook app that uses an e-mail address that has never been used for anything else. Yet it keeps suggesting people I actually know. The second account also does not have my full name (if it had my full name it'd be less weird, as my name to my knowledge is globally unique - there's only a few hundred people with my last name worldwide) The account has not been used for…

Cookies? From marketting networks? It's amazing how much the marketting networks can figure out about you, and keep track of you with a cookie.

yup seems more likely (to me at least) than matching on an ip address

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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Y'all know that I worked for Google. On this topic, I can only say good things about the place. When it comes to privacy and PII, Google holds itself to an extremely high standard. Many of these "social" innovations that are popping up on the market place were rejected out-of-hand at Google because it holds itself to an extremely high ethical standard regarding user data, as it actually respects them. I was shocked,…

Le me first say that I don't work for LinkedIn :). However, it has been quite helpful for me. A year ago, I was not happy with my job. I worked hard and long hours and felt like I was going nowhere. At the same time I didn't try looking for a new one because I didn't have enough confidence in my work experience. All that changed when a HR manager from a different company found me through LinkedIn. We clicked really w…

Yup, instead of you finding jobs, jobs finds you. Which totally changes the leverage to favor you.

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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You need a legal standard because the Russian censorship you describe is a matter of existing law. Also, note Yahoo's experiences with France.

It is a matter of law - means the government wants to enforce it. But why I have to agree with it? I do not have any obligation to respect anything the government of Russia or Iran does.

If you're doing business there, you do. If you're not, then let their firewall or whatever deal with it, but I doubt that's Google's situation.

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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I like your idea of point allocation (especially if we can include STR, DEX, and INT). But how do we set up the taxonomy of attributes? Particularly with hierarchical relationships (ex: is Machine Learning a subset of AI?) you'd want rough consensus if you're going to run graph algorithms over it and conclude anything beyond data-visualization style "Look, pretty data!" data pron. That's one of the hilarious things a…

It would be way more fun to write up a personal character sheet than a resume. We need an open RPG system for real life!

Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_Code

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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Y'all know that I worked for Google. On this topic, I can only say good things about the place. When it comes to privacy and PII, Google holds itself to an extremely high standard. Many of these "social" innovations that are popping up on the market place were rejected out-of-hand at Google because it holds itself to an extremely high ethical standard regarding user data, as it actually respects them. I was shocked,…

> When it comes to privacy and PII, Google holds itself to an extremely high standard. With all due respect, but you've gotta joking. Google doesn't even hold itself to the standards set by the laws in countries it operates in. Laws that are for now still full of loopholes Google happily exploits with zero restraint, despite knowing full well (not in the last place because they've been warned on a regular basis) that…

Whats wrong with lobbying against the laws which you think are bad? In a democratic process, you can (and do) end up with laws which are crappy/outdated/unjust. Lobbying is a legitimate way to tackle this problem.

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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Here are some things I find more creepy about LinkedIn: -It tells people when I view their profile. So now I never view people's profiles because I don't want to look like a stalker. Imagine if Facebook worked this way. -An andecdote, but maybe you've experienced it: a guy I worked with about 3 years ago (and only for 2 weeks) has "endorsed" me several times recently. I don't know if this is some kind of quid pro quo…

In fact, Facebook does quite the opposite - there's always been demand for "see who looked at your profile" apps on Facebook, and Facebook has always gone out of their way to squash them. It's something they most certainly don't want to happen on their platform, with good reason.

The "good reason" is that if they made that information public they wouldn't be able to make as much money selling it.

Re: LinkedIn: The Creepiest Social Network

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I finally joined linkedin about a week ago, and it just feels...scammy. It's interesting to me (or frightening) that some of the smartest people I know have the fewest endorsements. People I know doing [1] actual real work on things like "microcontrollers" have...3-4 endorsements with them, but people who I know have only maybe installed Linux, have 20 or so endorsements for "linux". There are people I know who are p…

The endorsements on LinkedIn are useless. LinkedIn suggests things like "Endorse [So and So] for [some thing]," and people just click the "endorse" button. People that know nothing about technology have endorsed me for skills I don't have.

Agreed. Endorsements are largely a popularity contest. Sure, it is great that your connect [name] endorsed you for [skill]... That is helpful to know in some ways, but it is no way definitive on your ability.

We're working on a system we think is slight better, based on getting credit for what you read, and hopefully one day what you know.

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