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Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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The last several months in Silicon Valley I do not remember the last time I went outside for more than 5 minutes and not seen a Tesla. I noticed about a week ago I stopped caring, much as I do not especially remark on noticing a Honda or a Ford. That's a good sign, though likely very geographically localized.

> though likely very geographically localized.

Last week I drove from Sacramento to San Jose and it seemed as if the closer I got to SJ, the more Teslas I saw.

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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A good article to help understand the massive afterhours movement: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/autos-tesla-idUSL2... High-Level Summary: There was a ton of short-selling interest on TSLA (due to expectations of a big earnings miss). Almost 27% of the 115mm shares outstanding are currently being borrowed by short sellers. TSLA has more short interest by percentage than 98% of US stocks. Everyone was real…

Elon Musk several days ago: EDIT: My mistake, this was said much longer ago (September 2012). I just read it recently. Thanks to batbomb for pointing this out. My apologies. “It’s doing pretty well actually given that we’re such a huge short position. In fact I think the short position may be as high as one can actually go. They literally hit the ceiling on the short position. The shorts are in it to the hills. I thi…

That's several months ago. If it was a few days ago he'd probably be hearing from the SEC soon.

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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A good article to help understand the massive afterhours movement: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/autos-tesla-idUSL2... High-Level Summary: There was a ton of short-selling interest on TSLA (due to expectations of a big earnings miss). Almost 27% of the 115mm shares outstanding are currently being borrowed by short sellers. TSLA has more short interest by percentage than 98% of US stocks. Everyone was real…

Elon Musk several days ago: EDIT: My mistake, this was said much longer ago (September 2012). I just read it recently. Thanks to batbomb for pointing this out. My apologies. “It’s doing pretty well actually given that we’re such a huge short position. In fact I think the short position may be as high as one can actually go. They literally hit the ceiling on the short position. The shorts are in it to the hills. I thi…

This quote makes me very happy :) There's nothing better than proving naysayers wrong. As if it isn't hard enough making something useful as it is without people betting actual money that you're not going to succeed...

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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post #15

A good article to help understand the massive afterhours movement: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/autos-tesla-idUSL2... High-Level Summary: There was a ton of short-selling interest on TSLA (due to expectations of a big earnings miss). Almost 27% of the 115mm shares outstanding are currently being borrowed by short sellers. TSLA has more short interest by percentage than 98% of US stocks. Everyone was real…

This might be a stupid question, but as a Tesla stock owner, and (becoming more apparent ever day) naive investor, how do you find out this information and/or digest it so well? I'm mainly a google finance guy and had no idea so much of the stock was being shorted.

Also don't forget - by the time you read the news about a company, the news has already affected the stock price (in the short term).

So in other words if you read big news the minute it comes out about a company, automated systems and institutional traders have already made their moves based on the news before retail investors have a chance.

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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A good article to help understand the massive afterhours movement: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/autos-tesla-idUSL2... High-Level Summary: There was a ton of short-selling interest on TSLA (due to expectations of a big earnings miss). Almost 27% of the 115mm shares outstanding are currently being borrowed by short sellers. TSLA has more short interest by percentage than 98% of US stocks. Everyone was real…

Elon Musk several days ago: EDIT: My mistake, this was said much longer ago (September 2012). I just read it recently. Thanks to batbomb for pointing this out. My apologies. “It’s doing pretty well actually given that we’re such a huge short position. In fact I think the short position may be as high as one can actually go. They literally hit the ceiling on the short position. The shorts are in it to the hills. I thi…

Up 26% after-hours almost certainly qualifies as a 'Tsunami of Hurt.'

Some quick math for fun's sake:

If the TechCrunch[1] article is still accurate, Musk owns 28.4% of TSLA. His paper-worth on this ownership this morning was $1.8B. If things stabilize at $70/share, his paper-worth tomorrow morning will be $2.3B.

A notional profit of $500 million in 24 hours isn't too shabby.

[1]http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/tesla-ipo-musk-shares/

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything but engine sound. I will miss the deep, throaty growl of a large V-8.

In the future, I suspect we'll see aftermarket outfitters touting externally facing audio equipment to imitate the sounds produced by high-powered combustion engines. I also suspect the majority of them will be sold to teenagers with fairly under-powered vehicles ;)

The future version of the coffee can exhaust pipe.

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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This is the first of many profitable quarters for Tesla. The Model S is a better car in every single regard (except for range), than any other car on the market. It is safer, faster, roomier, more fun to drive, has more storage, quieter, more convenient, and less polluting. Electric vehicles will displace combustion vehicles. Everything that makes a car, the electric car does better. Right now the electric vehicle ma…

Range and price, both of which are pretty important, especially the second.

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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post #19

If you've been in Silicon Valley for the past 6 months, this was obviously going to happen -- virtually everyone I know who could afford virtually any production supercar, and cares about cars, has or wants a Tesla. Not an R8, not a GTR, not a California, not a Panamera, not an M3, but a Tesla. As they ramp up their production (I think it's down to a few months wait), The only rich people (who own cars) not getting T…

If you've been in Omaha for the past 6 months, you more than likely do not know what a Tesla is. Be wary of the echo chamber.

Most of the people who can afford 100k cars (and/or who would be willing to buy 100k cars) live in SF, LA, NY, Boston, DC, etc. now. A better argument is that the total number of cars sold in those markets is like 1-2mm out of the 10mm US market, but even if Tesla just becomes Audi, that's pretty successful.

Another thing about high cost of living in places like that is maybe you're willing to spend 10% as much on a car as on a house. In Palo Alto that means you can buy two new loaded Teslas to go with your 2BR/1BA cottage; in the midwest, one used Toyota to go with a 4BR/3BA house on 5 acres.

(and Elon Musk's counterargument to all of this is that he's working on a 30-50k car next. I'm sure he'll deliver. The segment they're neglecting is the truck/commercial market -- there probably is an opportunity for someone (Textron? they make the new EV UPS/Fedex trucks) to make an awesome commercial EV platform, maybe with a CNG or LNG generator onboard. Whoever replaces with pickup truck and light commercial truck will have a next-Ford sized business, too)

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/02/149703488/oil-scare-turns-fede... is interesting

Re: Tesla Smashes Earnings And Revenue Expectations

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean to qualify your first statement by saying "electric car"?

Motor Trend didn't, so I don't see why he would. There are specific non-EVs which beat the Tesla on specific things, but nothing which beats the whole package, regardless of drivetrain. (Well, Tesla towing capacity is kind of crap I think, and it would be a poor choice if you street parked, drove to a far away location without superchargers enroute, etc.)

The commenter said it is the "best in every single regard" which is different than the "best whole package." Setting aside subjectives like whether it is the most fun to drive or the most convenient, it definitely isn't the fastest car, or even the fastest four door sedan (Audi S8 is one example of a faster similar 4 door). It isn't the roomiest, the Altima, for example, has more front/rear leg room (42.7/35.4" for the Tesla, 45/36.1" for the Altima) and more head room (38.8/35.3" vs 40/37"). It definitely isn't the best car for driving between distant cities in the winter either.

Tesla S is a great car, worthy of car of the year, great for many kinds of uses, and I really want one. But let's keep it real.

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