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Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by jspaur » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:51 PM UTC

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/apps/passw...

interesting toppasswords string. wasn't there a post a few weeks ago about how someone owns a patent on telling you your password is common?

edit: indeed there was: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5543393

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

#12

Post by joelg236 » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:52 PM UTC

DanielStraight wrote: post #7

There are clearly some problems here. "bacon giraffe coffee paper head": 2 weeks "coffee banana tourist nose": 15368 years Or even worse: "i like salt": 18 years "i like pepper": 9 hours

http://xkcd.com/936/

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by sengstrom » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:54 PM UTC

Ok I typed in my password, but nothing happened!

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by DanielStraight » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:55 PM UTC

joelg236 wrote: post #12

DanielStraight wrote: post #7

There are clearly some problems here. "bacon giraffe coffee paper head": 2 weeks "coffee banana tourist nose": 15368 years Or even worse: "i like salt": 18 years "i like pepper": 9 hours

http://xkcd.com/936/

Which inexplicably gets 182,598,077,247 years. This thing clearly does not understand how to judge passphrases.

For comparison, here is the best password checker I've found:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/209/zxcvbn/test/index.htm...

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by jspaur » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:57 PM UTC

warmwaffles wrote: post #5

Does this take in account different hashing algorithms and estimated brute force speed for each?

it does not. it simply looks at the number of uppercase, lowercase, digit, and special characters (no spaces, etc.) fairly naïve.

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by robbyking » Wed, May 08, 2013, 4:59 PM UTC

DanielStraight wrote: post #7

There are clearly some problems here. "bacon giraffe coffee paper head": 2 weeks "coffee banana tourist nose": 15368 years Or even worse: "i like salt": 18 years "i like pepper": 9 hours

I entered two password modeled after my password, and it said the first was rated at 22 seconds, and the second -- swapping out special characters for other special characters, etc. -- was rated at two weeks.

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by darrenkopp » Wed, May 08, 2013, 5:00 PM UTC

Something like 30 spaces is very secure, apparently.

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by thirsteh » Wed, May 08, 2013, 5:00 PM UTC

marshray wrote: post #9

hazz wrote: post #4

Why on earth do you need to confirm your password in order to check it?

And if, as they say, "PLEASE DO NOT ENTER YOUR REAL PASSWORD", why do they need to use a silly password entry field? EDIT: This video explains it: 10 hidden cameras. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security/passwordwin-...

This whole thing is a pretty poorly-thought-out and fairly counterproductive "Change Your Password Day" marketing move. That whole idea gives people the impression that "change your password often" is the thing to take away.

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by antihero » Wed, May 08, 2013, 5:01 PM UTC

darrenkopp wrote: post #17

Something like 30 spaces is very secure, apparently.

Well yeah, seeing as most bruteforce won't include spaces and even then would have to do a-z1-3 a bunch of times before it gets there.

Re: How Strong is Your Password?

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Post by xntrk » Wed, May 08, 2013, 5:03 PM UTC

I thought Intel's stock was doing okay. Looks like they have moved on to phishing scams...