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Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by Svip »

jkldotio wrote: post #6

The flipside of this are things like the banana regulation, more commonly known as Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94.[1] I believe it's now rescinded under ridicule but there are people who try to deny it even existed. It's well worth reading in full on eur-lex for riveting prose like "the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,…

I too would find it naïve at best to think that the EU was perfect; everyone knows that it isn't.

I don't understand your complaint about civil law, though; why is common law better than civil law? Civil law has the added benefit of being fairly simple and court rulings not making precedence.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by Nursie »

tezza wrote: post #8

A reasonably informative article. It must pain HNers in US that if they perceive these items as problems then they have little access to tasty unpasteurized cheeses which would help ease the blows. http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/consumers/ucm079516.... I'm from Oz originally, and they unfortunately ban unpasteurized cheese too.

Brie de Meaux honks like stale feet anyway! Seriously, opened some up in the car once, big mistake, it stank for ages.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by BCM43 »

arethuza wrote: post #9
jkldotio wrote: post #6

The flipside of this are things like the banana regulation, more commonly known as Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94.[1] I believe it's now rescinded under ridicule but there are people who try to deny it even existed. It's well worth reading in full on eur-lex for riveting prose like "the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,…

If your comment about "right to make certain types of sausages" refers to the various protections around food actually coming from a particular area I actually think that is a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... After all (to pick an example from the news today) - if something is described as "Stornoway Black Pudding" I'd like to believe it actually came from Stornoway: http://…

If it is exactly the same besides the origin, why does it matter?

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by jkldotio »

arethuza wrote: post #9
jkldotio wrote: post #6

The flipside of this are things like the banana regulation, more commonly known as Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94.[1] I believe it's now rescinded under ridicule but there are people who try to deny it even existed. It's well worth reading in full on eur-lex for riveting prose like "the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,…

If your comment about "right to make certain types of sausages" refers to the various protections around food actually coming from a particular area I actually think that is a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... After all (to pick an example from the news today) - if something is described as "Stornoway Black Pudding" I'd like to believe it actually came from Stornoway: http://…

You mean like the traditional Croatian wine Prosek being banned from sale because it sounds too similar to prosecco which was developed long after (and they are different types of wine).[1]

Or the feta cheese I buy from Germany that can't call itself feta and that anyone in day to day conversation will refer to as feta.

[1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/23/us-croatia-food-eu...

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by dsr_ »

arethuza wrote: post #9
jkldotio wrote: post #6

The flipside of this are things like the banana regulation, more commonly known as Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94.[1] I believe it's now rescinded under ridicule but there are people who try to deny it even existed. It's well worth reading in full on eur-lex for riveting prose like "the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,…

If your comment about "right to make certain types of sausages" refers to the various protections around food actually coming from a particular area I actually think that is a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... After all (to pick an example from the news today) - if something is described as "Stornoway Black Pudding" I'd like to believe it actually came from Stornoway: http://…

Yes, that's a truth-in-labelling law rather than an exclusive right to make a product. "Champagne-method sparkling wine" can come from California, "Champagne" has to come from a particular region of France.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by JonnieCache »

jkldotio wrote: post #6

The flipside of this are things like the banana regulation, more commonly known as Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94.[1] I believe it's now rescinded under ridicule but there are people who try to deny it even existed. It's well worth reading in full on eur-lex for riveting prose like "the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,…

>A more depressing tale of regulatory woe, given the rocketing suicides and unemployment in Greece, is that of the bookstore/café that can't sell coffee and frequently can't sell books.[3]

To be fair, that's a greek thing and not an EU thing.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by simonsarris »

tezza wrote: post #8

A reasonably informative article. It must pain HNers in US that if they perceive these items as problems then they have little access to tasty unpasteurized cheeses which would help ease the blows. http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/consumers/ucm079516.... I'm from Oz originally, and they unfortunately ban unpasteurized cheese too.

I think you've been slightly misinformed.

You can get raw milk and cheese all over New Hampshire, including in supermarkets, and apparently many other states for that matter[1]. I never even knew there were restrictions in some states until your comment.

Apparently, even where raw milk/cheese is banned in the U.S., cheese produced from raw milk is legal as long as its been aged for more than 60 days.

[1] http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/raw_milk_map.htm

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by samatman »

haliax wrote: post #2

Is there a good way to buy only products that avoid use of these chemicals?

All seven practices relate to animal foods, with the exception of a possible trickle-down effect on rice arsenic levels. Whether a vegetarian/vegan diet is a 'good way' is up to your taste.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by moogleii »

BCM43 wrote: post #13
arethuza wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your comment about "right to make certain types of sausages" refers to the various protections around food actually coming from a particular area I actually think that is a good thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t... After all (to pick an example from the news today) - if something is described as "Stornoway Black Pudding" I'd like to believe it actually came from Stornoway: http://…

If it is exactly the same besides the origin, why does it matter?

The problem arises when it isn't the same. Black forest ham, for instance.

Re: Food Practices Banned in Europe But Allowed in the US

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Post by stephencanon »

tezza wrote: post #8

A reasonably informative article. It must pain HNers in US that if they perceive these items as problems then they have little access to tasty unpasteurized cheeses which would help ease the blows. http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/consumers/ucm079516.... I'm from Oz originally, and they unfortunately ban unpasteurized cheese too.

Huh? The selection of both pasteurized and raw-milk (local and imported) cheeses at the little local co-op here in northern New England is astounding; far more options than I’ve seen in all but the best cheese shops abroad—-I can get all of my favorite foreign cheeses here, whereas I’ve never found my favorite american cheeses while traveling.
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