"We used to value hard work. It was the cornerstone of our society..."
And I welcome this change with open arms. Hard work in itself is not a goal and shouldn't be treated as such.
You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
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Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#22> No one likes waking up in the morning.
Nope! I regularly spring out of bed feeling wide awake, well rested and ready to start the day a good hour or two before I need to get up to get to work on time, and that time immediately after waking up in the morning is often my favorite part of the day.
Of course, the flipside of this is that I'm often ready to pass out by 9 PM.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#23While I do appreciate the overall goal of the message, I must say that I completely disagree with his statement:
No one likes waking up in the morning.
I for one actually do like waking up early in the morning and have been like that as long as I can remember. I also have some friends who think like this as well, so be careful when making generalizations :)
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#24Light therapy. Or, you know, modafinil works too. The answer isn't always 'man up', neither is it 'I am a victim'. Just treat it and move on with your life. You're not a hero for getting to work on time, but neither are you a villain for being late.
Modafinil is not a long-term solution as regular use causes tolerance.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#25Wow.
I don't feel guilty for over-sleeping. I've worked out a life for myself where people don't care that I sleep until 11:00. I simply don't schedule meetings or appointments for the morning, or if there's absolutely one that can't be avoided, I go to bed early and set an alarm clock to wake up for it.
It is not being a sissy to know your limitations and preferences and to work around them. If you make a commitment to another person, you should keep it. But nobody is forcing you to make that commitment in the first place. Is it really impossible to schedule that meeting in the afternoon, or to not have it at all?
It's not the OPs place to say what sort of sleep habits other people should or should not have. If he finds them annoying, fine: don't work with them.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#26Any disorder is a problem to be solved by some, while being an obstacle which others let stop them. If it's important enough, you'll be there, awake and early.
By being late, you're communicating that your job isn't the most important thing in your life. If that's true, we should be honest about it.
Every generation is full of the weak and the strong. We're all weak in some ways and strong in others. We've learned to subsidize one another.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#27Light therapy. Or, you know, modafinil works too. The answer isn't always 'man up', neither is it 'I am a victim'. Just treat it and move on with your life. You're not a hero for getting to work on time, but neither are you a villain for being late.
Rather than starting with modafinil, melatonin should probably be the first step. It might help, and people do not report tolerance after prolonged use the way they do for modafinil.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Coma? Narcolepsy? It seems like you're pulling out all the stops to avoid the uncomfortable point: the vast, vast majority of us are normal and don't have a convenient excuse for our poor sleep habits. > If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push, is that your fault? Absolutely. 1000%. Move your alarm. Hide it. Make it not turn off until you do math problems. Have a friend call you. Se…
>It is your responsibility and yours alone to wake up early enough to meet the obligations that you made for yourself. For myself? Sure. But why should I feel beholden to other people's schedules like the article says?
When you accept a job, or a meeting invite, you are making an explicit committment to a work schedule or an appointment. That is a personal committment that you chose to make. If you sleep through it, you failed your committment and should feel like it.
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#29It’s your fault and your fault alone. If you're in a coma, is that your fault? If you have narcolepsy, is it your fault? If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push , is that your fault? If you have a medical condition that makes it harder for you to wake up than for 99.8% of the population, is that your fault? There's a line somewhere, and I don't think the author of the original artic…
I think the point here is that everything today is considered a "medical condition". While that makes sense from a medical perspective, all it does is give people excuses for not dealing with their problems. "I can't get to work on time, I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome". "I can't focus in class, I have Attention Deficit Disorder". These are genuine difficulties that afflicted people will have to face, but don't ask the whole world to change to fit your circumstances.
Note, I was in and out of specialist children's hospitals for a good year or two while doctors tried to diagnose the reason my brain works differently to theirs. I have a certain set of psychological challenges I have to overcome, but I don't sit around whining about it all day.
Re: You should feel guilty for over-sleeping; or, my generation is full of sissies.
#30It's a common problem, and so worthy of a solution.
I'm not sure the "get over it" solution is working. It's accepted that developers will work without wearing full suits. This isn't different, maybe allowances should be made for productivity's sake.
Missing appointments is a different thing, and is unacceptable. Is day to day flexibility really that big of a problem?