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Post by drd »

After introducing the ring, still bridges collapsed in Quebec while in service not at construction and people died. I am not sure how effective is this ring.

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Post by adekok »

drd wrote: post #3

After introducing the ring, still bridges collapsed in Quebec while in service not at construction and people died. I am not sure how effective is this ring.

After making murder illegal, people are still murdered. Therefore, laws against murder are ineffective.

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Post by astrodust »

drd wrote: post #3

After introducing the ring, still bridges collapsed in Quebec while in service not at construction and people died. I am not sure how effective is this ring.

Notably there was no Iron Ring for the people running the companies building the bridges and rigging contracts.

It's a huge scandal now that went "all the way to the top". http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/former-montreal...

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Post by johlindenbaum »

Sort of relevant: In Canada the word "Engineer" is protected. While I am a Computer Scientist, I can not call myself a Software Engineer (or any form of Engineer), unlike in the US. In Canada you must have graduated from an Engineering College of a University to use the title.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

Non-Engineers notice my iron ring surprisingly often (ie. "oh my old roommate was an engineer"). It's a great conversation starter.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

johlindenbaum wrote: post #6

Sort of relevant: In Canada the word "Engineer" is protected. While I am a Computer Scientist, I can not call myself a Software Engineer (or any form of Engineer), unlike in the US. In Canada you must have graduated from an Engineering College of a University to use the title.

But in practice though I've found that pretty much all programming jobs are listed as "Software Engineer" and you'll get that on your card.

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Post by yurisagalov »

johlindenbaum wrote: post #6

Sort of relevant: In Canada the word "Engineer" is protected. While I am a Computer Scientist, I can not call myself a Software Engineer (or any form of Engineer), unlike in the US. In Canada you must have graduated from an Engineering College of a University to use the title.

I actually don't think that's strictly true. Although there might be a stigma associated with calling yourself an Engineer if you didn't go through an Engineering program, it is only illegal to call yourself a Professional Engineer if you're not properly licensed.

Graduating from an Engineering degree (and/or receiving an Iron Ring) has no real legal protection or obligation. The licensing requirements to become a Professional Engineer (or P. Eng) are as follows:

  * Graduate with a degree from an accredited program in engineering or applied science, accredited by the Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board (CEAB).
  * Complete an Engineer in Training or "Engineering Internship" program under the direction of a P.Eng. (This is a minimum four-year program with the exception of Quebec)
  * Review of work experience by the Association,
  * Pass a Professional Practice Exam(content and format of which differs by province).
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_en...

edit: based on the "Title Usage: Canada" section in the same article, it does look like there were lawsuits and attempts to try and restrict the usage of the word Engineer, but it seems results were mixed at best, and vary widely from province to province, so I'll stand by my point that the only actual protected term is Professional Engineer

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