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Tesla Hires Aston Martin's Vehicle Engineering Leader

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Re: Tesla Hires Aston Martin's Vehicle Engineering Leader

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As someone who's anything but a greasemonkey, how good are Aston Martin from an engineering standpoint compared to the competition?

So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

I think you are being a bit unfair.

Gearbox wise, they were on the edge of what they knew, but had to keep up with the competition, and well, pointless fashion. It was an optional extra that customers didn't have to have. That gearbox is not typical of the engineering at AML. Yeah, they should have not released it with out more R&D, but equally, the gearbox is not representative of the whole package.

Bodyflex wise, or the loss of torsional rigidity is what happens when you cut a roof off, and well, make things worse by adding a load of structure to make up for it, ish, adding weight. But that happens to greater or lesser extents with other cars. All lose torsional rigidity and gain weight, unless specifically designed to be convertible. The DB9 is long, and there for suffers more than a shorter car. Same problem with a DBS, but why any one would want to buy a DBS and compromise it is beyond me. But, much better with the Vantage. So, IMHO, you get what you gat. If you must have a DB9 type car chopped up, it will flex more.

Dunno what's wrong with the brakes, but given that you say the problem was for 2 years of production suggests that its a problem solved.

Electrics. Ahhhh, never a good thing on Astons!! Which for Tesla is pretty ironic.

Re: Tesla Hires Aston Martin's Vehicle Engineering Leader

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Tesla also recruited Henrik Fisker from Aston Martin. Those who don't know of Fisker, he went on to found his own company after a couple of years at Tesla( http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/ ). Looks like Aston Martin have some serious talent working on those machines.

Fisker then left Fisker Automatives, and that company is now in the process of dying or dead.

Fisker Karma. What irony.

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TSLA is up on the news - have a look at the end of today's graph: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ATSLA&ei=vSGIUe...

As someone who bought several thousand shares at $17/share when it went IPO, its hard not to be excited for TSLA.

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I was wondering why Elon tweeted, "Anyone interested in doing ultra hardcore vehicle engineering at Tesla, please apply!" but now it makes sense. On a similar note, isn't it odd that this position is just being filled? Elon's Twitter Page: https://twitter.com/elonmusk

Always be closing amazing talent.

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As someone who's anything but a greasemonkey, how good are Aston Martin from an engineering standpoint compared to the competition?

So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

The things you don't hear about on Top Gear. Do you think there's anywhere else I can go to read stuff like what you wrote?

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you're asking if something is as simple as a ferarri?

I think he was trying to argue that "good" is subjective. That Ferrari/Porsche aren't necessarily good, as it depends on what you value. If you value simplicity and reliability, perhaps you would view Toyota/Honda as superior.

Actually, Porsche has been #2 in reliability (J.D. Power Vehicle Dependability Survey) for two years running (behind Toyota's Lexus brand), #4 in 2011, and was the leader in 2010.

However, to be perfectly fair, your average Porsche sees far fewer miles per year than a bread-and-butter mid-size sedan.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

I think you are being a bit unfair. Gearbox wise, they were on the edge of what they knew, but had to keep up with the competition, and well, pointless fashion. It was an optional extra that customers didn't have to have. That gearbox is not typical of the engineering at AML. Yeah, they should have not released it with out more R&D, but equally, the gearbox is not representative of the whole package. Bodyflex wise, o…

>Electrics. Ahhhh, never a good thing on Astons!!

Nonsense, and it's also why this hire makes so much sense. In addition to the engine, underneath the hood is an incredibly powerful electromagnet that's an extraordinary example of their engineering prowess.

It's the opposite polarity of the ones installed in each dealership's service garage, which is why they always end up back at their service department.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

Were they any fun to drive? After Ford bought Aston, I always assumed the cars would feel like souped-up Tauruses with Connolly leather interiors, but I've never actually sat behind the wheel of an Aston.

Absolutely. Quality issues aside, they're spectacular cars and very emotional experiences. Watch this video and tell me it doesn't get your blood pumping ;)

http://www.astonmartin.com/cars/vanquish/video#1

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So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

The things you don't hear about on Top Gear. Do you think there's anywhere else I can go to read stuff like what you wrote?

Top Gear is an entertainment show. With staff of writers and producers. Everything is preplanned, everything that is said is said with entertainment and marketing in mind. Almost no factual substance. I think it's hardly surprising that they don't do thorough technical analysis.

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So here's the thing - they're not actually that good. Let me preface this by saying that a) my perspective isn't a normal consumer one -- my business has put tens of thousands of miles on various Aston Martin models (we rent them) and b) the last model I've dealt with extensively is an '06 DB9, so things may have changed a lot in the past few years. But that being said, despite being IMHO the most gorgeous cars on th…

The things you don't hear about on Top Gear. Do you think there's anywhere else I can go to read stuff like what you wrote?

Fifth Gear is along the lines of Top Gear, but a little more fact based.

My personal favorite is Evo car magazine based out of the UK. They do "long term tests" for a lot of exotics like Aston Martins. As an example here is a review of the V8 Vantage from a few years ago: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/202705/asto...

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