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Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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http://www.inkscape.org/

Nice for it being OSS and all that, but I had to edit XML just to reorder some layers. Definitely not the same features and polish.

http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Layer_Dialog

inkscape shares many features with fireworks. it's a great alternative for a big chunk of similar applications.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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I knew the gig was up when the CC announcement today mentioned Photoshop had adjustable rounded corner radius (the fact that this makes a press release should make some people pause before using Photoshop for their web comps, not that it will really stop anybody) and Illustrator now supports CSS exporting for gradients and such (CSS exporting being a feature of Fireworks CS6).

I would feel less abandoned by Adobe if they could simply make a better dedicated wireframing tool that shares the best of InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop rather than making me choose if today I want PDFs, Vector or Bitmap.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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I've been using Fireworks for years, back to Macromedia Fireworks 4. It's much better/faster than Photoshop for web design (rounded square corners come to mind). If you work on a Mac, consider Sketch by Bohemian Coding : http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ It's a great app, is updated very frequently and has come a very long way and could almost be seen as already superior to Fireworks CS6 in most ways.

Just use a plugin to enable round corner editing, like http://photoshopscripts.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/corner-edit...

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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The perfect combination of vector and bitmap editing. I love Fireworks. My guess is that Adobe just couldn't figure out how to make it better. It was already pretty much all it needed to be by about Fireworks MX. And it remains, to this day, a very different codebase. User-friendly but quite powerful behind the scenes. I could never get the hang of Photoshop or Illustrator. Sure, Photoshop may have features or Illust…

100% agree with what you said, I use it for all my graphic design, UX design and sometimes I also stretch it to do for print graphics (yeah, for print it ends with and import to PS and export to pdf). ...but it's also buggy as hell! If you're a FW user, take PS or Illustrator for a spin and it will seem wind-fast and rock-solid in comparison. The FW codebase may be in need of a complete rewrite or hardcore refactorin…

In many ways it feels like the number one change Adobe did to Fireworks is to make it slower, for no discernible reason.

And Fireworks is quite buggy in some details, and it being a completely different codebase didn't help. I agree that AI and PS are much better in terms of stability and codebase and support, but they still feel like you're using an electric toothbrush to paint a wall.

For print graphics, it's LaTeX for me. It's not an entirely sane choice. Either that or very high resolution Fireworks, trying to deal with HTML5 (and bending that into a PDF with horrific results) or just giving up and using Word. Or Illustrator, for that matter, which is the sane choice. But Illustrator sits in an awkward gap and InDesign isn't much better either in that regard.

There's a market out there for a non-WYSIWYG application for print design.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice for it being OSS and all that, but I had to edit XML just to reorder some layers. Definitely not the same features and polish.

http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Layer_Dialog inkscape shares many features with fireworks. it's a great alternative for a big chunk of similar applications.

That dialog only worked AFTER I edited the XML.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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Indeed. For years we had to use workarounds and various cheats . Having different radii was a pain in the ass in PS, but a breeze in FW.

It's a breeze in PS now too. Well, that's if you fork for the latest Creative Cloud subscription, or wait for the next boxed version. The upcoming Creative Cloud version, called Photoshop CC (Creative Cloud), finally offers re-adjustable radii (for all corners). See more here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B... !

"now" is decidedly premature. Adobe's announcement yesterday happened after this conversation, and I don't recall them making the new Photoshop available right now. And, seriously, if they have to make it one of the primary features highlighted during their keynote, it's only telling that it's coming very, very late.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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Hello Everyone, I've been a fireworks user since the product's initial release. I consider it to be an essential tool for rapid prototyping, designer-developer workflow, and Web graphic asset creation. Please consider signing the following petition to either encourage Adobe to continue Fireworks development or convert Fireworks to an open source project. thanks in advance for your support!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dont-kill-adobe-fireworks...

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