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Silicon Valley has come a long way from 1966: from cutting edge material science http://youtu.be/z47Gv2cdFtA to applying open source sepia filter...

I am afraid that the logical end of this race to the bottom in terms of technology is the end of the Silicon Valley (perhaps something like Hollywood for "new media" replacing technology)

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You may as well be reading about a rock band here. This story does not and will not apply to you. This is the one in a thousand/million fairy-tale of the frivolous app dreamed up in coffee shops, fuelled by rapid investment and sold for vast sums to a tech giant without so much as a whiff of a business model.

Indeed this is one in a million.

My story is the total opposite... Where giants squash and step on the little guy innovator.

See thread I posted below https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5661273

Re: What Really Happened When Facebook Bought Instagram

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post #31

You may as well be reading about a rock band here. This story does not and will not apply to you. This is the one in a thousand/million fairy-tale of the frivolous app dreamed up in coffee shops, fuelled by rapid investment and sold for vast sums to a tech giant without so much as a whiff of a business model.

Indeed this is one in a million. My story is the total opposite... Where giants squash and step on the little guy innovator. See thread I posted below https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5661273

You don't actually have any specifics of your story posted, just vague comments. Would you perhaps be willing to share details?

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post #59
post #31

You may as well be reading about a rock band here. This story does not and will not apply to you. This is the one in a thousand/million fairy-tale of the frivolous app dreamed up in coffee shops, fuelled by rapid investment and sold for vast sums to a tech giant without so much as a whiff of a business model.

The name of the publication is "Vanity Fair".

Which also happens to have pretty good articles every now and then.

Re: What Really Happened When Facebook Bought Instagram

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post #31

You may as well be reading about a rock band here. This story does not and will not apply to you. This is the one in a thousand/million fairy-tale of the frivolous app dreamed up in coffee shops, fuelled by rapid investment and sold for vast sums to a tech giant without so much as a whiff of a business model.

I see. Let's say I see a big incumbent who's UNIQUE selling point is 'we have everyone's private photos. people have to come to us if they want to see their friend's photos.' I start threatening them. They pay and buy us. I get rich. The incumbent gets to keep everyone's photos. At what point in the above do we not have a business model? Oh, you mean it can't possibly WORK! Except that it just did. Well, I'm sorry, b…

A business model insinuates a viable ongoing business, where you have customers, and profit. You know, an "ongoing concern".

Being bought because you're shiny? Not a business model. To say Instagram has a business model is to insult every hacker/doer/entrepreneur who is actually trying to build a real business.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The direct reason that this doesn't work outside silicon valley is that outside silicon valley you, will1000, will not work for me for equity and no salary. That is only possible in Silicon Valley. Right, because only in Silicon Valley will people work for equity and no salary. They live off the air. Explain to me how talented coder 'x' (whoever, maybe will1000) will be able to live without any compensation whatsoe…

The portion you refer to is pocket change - it would not retain these employees outside Silicon Valley, where such caliber of employees are willing to give great weight to equity. Read http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127882/Meet-OTHER-n... and it becomes clear that the 18 employees were recruited mostly with equity. Hiring the quality of talent that we're talking about, in will1000's market, just doesn't hap…

You are an incredibly lucky person if living for 18 months with no salary is plausible for you. Either that or you've already worked somewhere for a large salary. You shouldn't talk down to people because they haven't experienced the same luck as you. Instagram was an exception to just about every rule, and I don't think it's a bad thing that a majority of the world would laugh at anybody trying to sell them the idea of work in it for equity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see. Let's say I see a big incumbent who's UNIQUE selling point is 'we have everyone's private photos. people have to come to us if they want to see their friend's photos.' I start threatening them. They pay and buy us. I get rich. The incumbent gets to keep everyone's photos. At what point in the above do we not have a business model? Oh, you mean it can't possibly WORK! Except that it just did. Well, I'm sorry, b…

What you've just stated is, essentially, the business equivalent of the lottery. You could almost replace any reference to business terms in your post with "lottery" and have the same amount of truth applied. The whole point of a "model" is that it's repeatable and definable. "Getting acquired because they fear us" isn't a business model.

Nature and capitalism share a structural characteristic: both require equilibrium or over-production to self-sustain. Any sustained deficit and the organism or economic entity suffers catastrophic failure.

It is absolutely possible to undermine the business model of a company like Facebook by winning a marginal piece of their business away from them.

Economists are so fervently engaged in trying to eliminate cash-flow/economic/business cycles because deficits have non-linear consequences when they manifest.

With that, instagram had only one possible exit strategy to execute and they did.

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post #114
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name of the publication is "Vanity Fair".

Which also happens to have pretty good articles every now and then.

Hear Hear - Christopher Hitchens was its editor, so it can't be that bad.

Re: What Really Happened When Facebook Bought Instagram

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post #114
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name of the publication is "Vanity Fair".

Which also happens to have pretty good articles every now and then.

Hear Hear - Christopher Hitchens was its editor, so it can't be that bad.

Re: What Really Happened When Facebook Bought Instagram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you've just stated is, essentially, the business equivalent of the lottery. You could almost replace any reference to business terms in your post with "lottery" and have the same amount of truth applied. The whole point of a "model" is that it's repeatable and definable. "Getting acquired because they fear us" isn't a business model.

Nature and capitalism share a structural characteristic: both require equilibrium or over-production to self-sustain. Any sustained deficit and the organism or economic entity suffers catastrophic failure. It is absolutely possible to undermine the business model of a company like Facebook by winning a marginal piece of their business away from them. Economists are so fervently engaged in trying to eliminate cash-flo…

I have tried to understand what you have written. Help me out here.

> Nature and capitalism share a structural characteristic: both require equilibrium or over-production to self-sustain. Any sustained deficit and the organism or economic entity suffers catastrophic failure.

What does this actually mean in the context of this discussion? What does this have to do with anything?

> It is absolutely possible to undermine the business model of a company like Facebook by winning a marginal piece of their business away from them.

Nobody is denying that Instagram were a threat to Facebook. What people are saying are that the chances of becoming a threat are incredibly small and very much based on luck. There were many other well-executed apps that did not achieve the same success. That, and combined with the absence of a genuine business model, is why people mention the similarity to a lottery ticket.

> Economists are so fervently engaged in trying to eliminate cash-flow/economic/business cycles because deficits have non-linear consequences when they manifest.

Please explain to me what this means. What does it mean for a deficit to have a non-linear consequence?

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