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Shows how unbearably slow Debian's release cycle is. Wheezy ships with all the latest packages from 2 years ago.
This is silly. Debian also provides rolling releases, testing and unstable. The release cycle is slow only if you ignore the constant development of Debian Sid.
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For anyone else wondering, RHEL 6.4 has the 2.6.32-358 kernel. Zenwalk 7.2 has the 3.2.5 kernel. What's the point of citing the kernel shipped with another distro here?
Shows how unbearably slow Debian's release cycle is. Wheezy ships with all the latest packages from 2 years ago.
Change (well, poorly managed change) causes instability and issues. Debian has proven that they can manage change in their distribution and it makes everyones life easier.
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This is silly. Debian also provides rolling releases, testing and unstable. The release cycle is slow only if you ignore the constant development of Debian Sid.
Right now in unstable/sid, you get the same Linux 3.2 and GNOME 3.4.
Would this be a good time to migrate from Ubuntu?
I'm not, because I find Debian's KVM support to be not what I expect, but if you don't like Ubuntu for whatever reason, it's not a bad time to do it. That said, Debian stable means you'd better be happy with what you have for a very long time unless you want to deal with the often-painful stable->testing or stable->unstable migration. (It can be done, I've done it many times, but expect it to break something.) Person…
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For anyone else wondering, RHEL 6.4 has the 2.6.32-358 kernel. Zenwalk 7.2 has the 3.2.5 kernel. What's the point of citing the kernel shipped with another distro here?
I was under the impression that a newer kernel ment more hardware support. Am I wrong?
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Certainly. Wheezy is the new "stable", which will get security support for a year past the introduction of the next stable release. It's an excellent choice for servers, and right now it's not a bad desktop release. In another year or so you might want to move to the testing release for a desktop that needs the latest features.
Debian testing won't have "the latest features" a year from now, though. I guess it'll have "later features", but IME desktops really benefit from tracking unstable. Which, as one might expect, is sometimes...unstable. Enter Ubuntu. There's a pretty good reason to use Debian on servers because of the long support cycles, but on a desktop I feel like most people are going to probably prefer an Ubuntu setup.
[1] To be honest I actually run a mixed system with a few packages (not just oneoffs but big things like xmonad/iceweasel/awesome/git/pandoc/git-annex/gitit) from experimental. If it has been a long time (5-7 years) since you tried unstable you can think of experimental as what unstable used to be.
Congratulations to everyone involved. I've been running wheezy on my home server for a while now (/var/www moved to /srv, apt diffs package lists...) and i look forward to upgrading the production servers over the coming months. As an aside, it's really interesting that the word 'Linux' is mentioned only once on this page - and only after the kFreeBSD kernel.
nginx on ubuntu now uses /usr/share/nginx/www
i wonder how long these conventions will continue to be all over the place.
Congratulations to everyone involved. I've been running wheezy on my home server for a while now (/var/www moved to /srv, apt diffs package lists...) and i look forward to upgrading the production servers over the coming months. As an aside, it's really interesting that the word 'Linux' is mentioned only once on this page - and only after the kFreeBSD kernel.
i've always wondered about /var/www vs /srv/www nginx on ubuntu now uses /usr/share/nginx/www i wonder how long these conventions will continue to be all over the place.
/srv contains site-specific data which is served by this
system.
Unfortunately, /srv/ is often ignored. Good move by Debian to make this change, and hopefully this gets the ball rolling for other distros.
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i've always wondered about /var/www vs /srv/www nginx on ubuntu now uses /usr/share/nginx/www i wonder how long these conventions will continue to be all over the place.
That's why we have the FHS ;) /srv contains site-specific data which is served by this system. http://www.samba.org/~cyeoh/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVI... Unfortunately, /srv/ is often ignored. Good move by Debian to make this change, and hopefully this gets the ball rolling for other distros.
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For anyone else wondering, RHEL 6.4 has the 2.6.32-358 kernel. Zenwalk 7.2 has the 3.2.5 kernel. What's the point of citing the kernel shipped with another distro here?
Shows how unbearably slow Debian's release cycle is. Wheezy ships with all the latest packages from 2 years ago.