It's depressing that many governments simply don't understand that providing high speed cheap internet should be the number 1 priority for encouraging growth in technology sectors.
It doesn't prevent growth in tech sectors in the US.
Germany is downgrading
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#42Shocking! I had no idea... It does not fit Germany's image. Portugal has most cities covered with fiber, at prices of around 30eur/month for 50mbps and about 40eur/month for 100mbps. Smaller cities are covered with coaxial cable, with last miles at 30mbps. Only in remote areas do you get stuck with ADSL (speed varies wildly with distance to POP). No traffic capping, and I'd wager the first provider that introduces ca…
Oh German telecoms in the DBP days was always very much you get what you are given citizen.
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#43T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico in February and decided on a T-Mobile stick because the one I use in Budapest works perfectly. In PR, though, there were URLs that simply didn't go through - and there is literally no support. None; you simply can't get support at all. No phone, no email - just a "community support" forum where you can post things if you feel like blowing off s…
> T-Mobile in the States is, if possible, even worse. I visited Puerto Rico Judging the 'United States' based on Puerto Rico?
Why not?
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#44I somewhat disagree with this article, at least from my experience. From my experience internet has always been cheaper, faster and more reliable than any time I have had a connecting on the US. I have mostly had experience with Kabel BW and Telekom. For example in the US at the moment it costs me ~$80 for a reasonable cable connection from comcast 20Mb/s. I can expect my connection to go down for a few seconds/minut…
It would be interesting to hear how much cheaper we are talking here about. E.g. here in Lithuania (Eastern Europe) I pay about 15$ for 100Mb/s (for 30$ I could get 300Mb/s).
I had similar internet when I was living for 3 years in Poland (Gdansk). 125mbit for ~50 PLN (which was around EUR 15).
Now I'm back in Germany and have fabulous 16mbit for nearly 50 Euros. (Fastest internet I can get here.)
Also it's ridiculous that my internet access in Poland was set up within 2 days and here I had to wait 6 weeks for everything to work properly.
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#45I somewhat disagree with this article, at least from my experience. From my experience internet has always been cheaper, faster and more reliable than any time I have had a connecting on the US. I have mostly had experience with Kabel BW and Telekom. For example in the US at the moment it costs me ~$80 for a reasonable cable connection from comcast 20Mb/s. I can expect my connection to go down for a few seconds/minut…
It would be interesting to hear how much cheaper we are talking here about. E.g. here in Lithuania (Eastern Europe) I pay about 15$ for 100Mb/s (for 30$ I could get 300Mb/s).
I pay Unitymedia about 54 € / month for 20 MBit/s Cable, which includes landline phone flatrate, digital cable tv and a rented PVR.
Next month, I'll switch to a 16MBit/s DSL connection including a phone flatrate (who needs tv, anyway?), which will be about 25 € / month.
I live in Darmstadt (which is about 50km from Frankfurt).
15 bucks for 100 MBit/s sounds rather nice though!
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#46I somewhat disagree with this article, at least from my experience. From my experience internet has always been cheaper, faster and more reliable than any time I have had a connecting on the US. I have mostly had experience with Kabel BW and Telekom. For example in the US at the moment it costs me ~$80 for a reasonable cable connection from comcast 20Mb/s. I can expect my connection to go down for a few seconds/minut…
It would be interesting to hear how much cheaper we are talking here about. E.g. here in Lithuania (Eastern Europe) I pay about 15$ for 100Mb/s (for 30$ I could get 300Mb/s).
Here in the Netherlands we have 100MB/s internet, TV with DVR settop box and cheap landline phonecalls for a little over 50 euros, and that's not even the cheapest option. It really surprises me, my friends live a stone's throw away from the German border (in Enschede), and they have cheap fiberglass internet there...
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#47At the same time that I think it's important to complain, the post seems too much like a spoiled complaint. "Don't move your startup there"? Is the poster aware that several startups work with internet worse than that? Internet quality is one important factor, but it is not the only one. I'd even say there are more important factors. Complains about D-Telekom but offers no alternative? (and that's why government mono…
A serious start up should not be using consumer grade DSL lines.
It's not about what lines your startup uses in the office. It's about what lines your customers have available to them.
Try getting something like a video streaming service running if your main consumer base has a traffic limit of several gigabytes a month.
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#48At the same time that I think it's important to complain, the post seems too much like a spoiled complaint. "Don't move your startup there"? Is the poster aware that several startups work with internet worse than that? Internet quality is one important factor, but it is not the only one. I'd even say there are more important factors. Complains about D-Telekom but offers no alternative? (and that's why government mono…
A serious start up should not be using consumer grade DSL lines.
Define 'consumer grade' and 'serious startup'
Code is not big, other resources like images, etc, may take more space, but that's often not an issue.
More importantly, 'consumer grade DSL' may be all that's available depending on the location.
Of course, the website is not being served from there.
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#49Badly written article, lacking improtant facts and misrepresenting things (e.g. there is not just Telekom in Germany...) just to finally go all alarmist. :/
I was thinking the same thing, I live in germany and am very aware of the net situation. I hoped to find a nice summary on the Telekom peering blackmail they do, the net neutrality issues of mobile internet and t-entertain/spotify, vdsl-vectoring, ds-lite (not telekom but unitymedia) and the very apparent anti-internet climate of the government and law enforcement. What I got was some incoherent rant of some very specific issue he personally had, useless.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
A serious start up should not be using consumer grade DSL lines.
Define 'consumer grade' and 'serious startup' Code is not big, other resources like images, etc, may take more space, but that's often not an issue. More importantly, 'consumer grade DSL' may be all that's available depending on the location. Of course, the website is not being served from there.
You can't get business ADSL, SDSL or a leased line in Germany I woudl be surprised if that is the case.
In fact knowing Germany I am not surprised that using a consumer line for business is not breaking some rule.