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Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by mjolk »

arkitaip wrote: post #6
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

This article has many facts wrong. It seems that MySQL development halted entirely at Sun. I was concerned about Oracle's motives w.r.t MySQL but I can say they have come out with major new releases that improve MySQL in substantial ways. For instance, they've greatly improved the scalability of InnoDB on large SMP machines. On the other hand, neither Sun nor Oracle have been really wanting to win with MySQL either a…

Was there ever a doubt that MariaDB wouldn't work in demanding applications? It's pretty much MySQL all the way down.

"No one ever got fired for buying IBM."

As a corollary, no one wants to be the guy that suggested MongoDB before it caused an outage.

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Post by cmsefton »

mattwritescode wrote: post #4

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but a tremendous amount of respect for Monty, and wish him all the success in the world.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by kbd »

duwease wrote: post #9
AaronBBrown wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MariaDB basically exists because of Monty's hatred for Oracle (which bought Sun after Sun bought MySQL for wheelbarrows full of money from Monty). It won't happen.

If it was me, I'd keep cranking out superior databases, selling them for a billion, and starting on the next one as fast as they'd buy em :)

I think that's what Stonebreaker did with PostgreSQL, VoltDB, Vertica...

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by leef »

dangrossman wrote: post #5

Is there a reason to choose MariaDB over Percona or vice-versa? They're both drop-in replacements for MySQL and both replace InnoDB with XtraDB (which Percona makes).

The only real feature MariaDB offers over vanilla MySQL and Percona is an improved optimizer for complex sql queries [1].

In most cases Percona seems to be a win over both MySQL and MariaDB as it is just patch layer over MySQL with features and tweaks that real production users see and need. These features tend to end up in future MySQL releases like saving and restoring the buffer pool allowing mysql to warm start. I believe that feature made it in to MySQL 5.6 but was added to percona/mysql 5.1.

[1] http://blog.mariadb.org/mariadb-5-3-optimizer-benchmark/

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by leef »

cmsefton wrote: post #12
mattwritescode wrote: post #4

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but…

Except, as much I am not a fan of the company, Oracle has done a far better job managing and improving MySQL than Sun so far.

Having the same company own both the main engine (InnoDB) and the harness (MySQL) has been tremendously valuable.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by tyleregeto »

The big battle MariaDB (or any DB) is going to have is gaining ground in the shared web host space. That makes up a pretty large portion of websites, and there is no incentive for those providers to change. I'd love to see other DB options in that space, its all PHP/MySQL.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by frenchy »

cmsefton wrote: post #12
mattwritescode wrote: post #4

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but…

> he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL

I may be a bit ignorant, but what have they done with MySQL?

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by exabrial »

frenchy wrote: post #18
cmsefton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but…

> he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL I may be a bit ignorant, but what have they done with MySQL?

I really hate the word hate. This has the whole stupid jenkins/hudson thing written all over it.

I do appreciate Monty's efforts, but really, can we kiss and make up? And if oracle wants to monetize MySql, so what? The rest of us get a better database.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Post by AaronBBrown »

cmsefton wrote: post #12
mattwritescode wrote: post #4

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but…

...after he made wheelbarrows full of money from the Sun purchase.
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