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and the security implications of that would be insane...
It's not as bad as it sounds (though I gave you an upvote). You'd just have to limit the access to browser apps that have been "installed" to the home screen. I'm sure people would go nuts, but I think it could be done relatively safely.
Gmail Sidesteps the App Store
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Re: Gmail Sidesteps the App Store
#22The article didn't seem to say where in the app they were actually using Canvas -- anyone have any idea?
According to the official Gmail blog: "The HTML5 canvas tag is used to render the progress spinner without the overhead of downloading animated GIFs to the device." http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-mobile-gmail-exper...
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#23I'm totally confused. Doesn't this mean that Gmail only works when you're online? Which means... higher battery usage than a native email client, higher bandwidth usage, slower response time, doesn't work in airplanes, etc.?
With offline storage it can work much like offline gmail using Gears on the desktop. That's more or less the point. Google around for HTML5 and offline storage.
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#24Isn't this, rich web apps, what Steve Jobs originally said should happen when asked why an SDK/third party native apps weren't going to be made available?
People moaned.
Then a web app is called 'sidestepping' the app store?!
I think the iPhone does need an app store, at the end of the day, but this headline was just to rich.
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The main browser would be subject to the same security as any native app, so I'm not sure how the security issues would be any different than a native application.
because native applications are usually installed by choice. With a browser the implication (of the poster) is you could browse anywhere . Which obviously is a security risk because any page you visit has access to the Iphone API. Would you visit a site that had that kind of access in your desktop browser?
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the official Gmail blog: "The HTML5 canvas tag is used to render the progress spinner without the overhead of downloading animated GIFs to the device." http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-mobile-gmail-exper...
Oh, jeez, maybe it's just me but that seems like technology for technology's sake. A spinner can be compressed to, what, 1k or so? I guess they should have drawn the Google logo with canvas, too.
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With offline storage it can work much like offline gmail using Gears on the desktop. That's more or less the point. Google around for HTML5 and offline storage.
That is the theory. Does it actually work on the iPhone/iPod touch when there is no connection?
Re: Gmail Sidesteps the App Store
#28Isn't this, rich web apps, what Steve Jobs originally said should happen when asked why an SDK/third party native apps weren't going to be made available?
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the official Gmail blog: "The HTML5 canvas tag is used to render the progress spinner without the overhead of downloading animated GIFs to the device." http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-mobile-gmail-exper...
Oh, jeez, maybe it's just me but that seems like technology for technology's sake. A spinner can be compressed to, what, 1k or so? I guess they should have drawn the Google logo with canvas, too.
Re: Gmail Sidesteps the App Store
#30Isn't this, rich web apps, what Steve Jobs originally said should happen when asked why an SDK/third party native apps weren't going to be made available?
steve jobs never said that web apps were a replacement for real third-party apps. in 2007 he said that web apps are what we've got now, and then he failed to comment at all on any upcoming sdk, because apple never talks about unreleased products.
> “Developers and users alike are going to be very surprised and pleased at how great these applications look and work on iPhone,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “Our innovative approach, using Web 2.0-based standards, lets developers create amazing new applications while keeping the iPhone secure and reliable.”
And the rest of the press release said:
> “Developers can create Web 2.0 applications which look and behave just like the applications built into iPhone, and which can seamlessly access iPhone’s services, [...]”
> “Web 2.0-based applications are being embraced by leading developers because they are far more interactive and responsive than traditional web applications, and can be easily distributed over the Internet and painlessly updated by simply changing the code on the developers’ own servers. The modern web standards also provide secure data access and transactions, like those used with Amazon.com or online banking.”