Maybe she's gonna update her github in a few year with cryptic messages in cryptic outdated format.
Anyone knows if she ever did any Ruby?
What ever happened to Adria Richards?
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Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not trying to demonize her. People harassing her online are inappropriate and should apologize as well (but probably won't because they're anonymous cowards). The men were technically violating the conference's code of conduct and have already apologized. It's her turn now, that's all I'm saying. edit: Sorry, I did not understand your post (I think you may have edited it later?). I'm not hard on myself. Not sure…
I was responding to ahoyhere with my comment and I edited it after I realised it she is also a woman in tech. I guess I really wish that the 'women in tech' had responded more along the lines of "Yes she's acting like a childish and we don't like it either, but don't you dare treat her like this.' P.S. This is from a queer in tech who was once similarly cast to the lions for complaining (in private ;) about managemen…
I agree with what you're saying and also sorry for butting in :P (I was a bit confused). Adria definitely doesn't deserve what is happening to her. I think the reason a lot of people lack sympathy is because her situation is like her being bullied for being a bully. Bullying is wrong no matter what (or who it's done to) and people need to remember that.
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#13What ever happened to the developer who lost his job?
.. is much better question.
Who would care about her? Stop feeding this particular troll please
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#14Maybe she's gonna update her github in a few year with cryptic messages in cryptic outdated format. Anyone knows if she ever did any Ruby?
First true laugh of the day, thanks.
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#15I was wondering the same thing the other day. I think she's hiding out and probably not sure about her next move. I don't know her at all but I emailed her to tell her that she has done lots of good and will be forgiven if she explains where she screwed up. Nobody deserves to be told they should be raped etc. and I think the only way for some of the public overreaction to stop is for her to admit her own overreaction…
Women in tech need you now to return our reputation to what it was before your outburst.
I disagree. She needs to attend to her physical safety, first and foremost, and her mental health, a close second. The overreaction to her tiny tweet was about a million to one and her very public flogging was so out of proportion and so misogynistic and racist that if I were her, I'd be scarred for life. It reminded me of those 3rd world stories that pop up every once in a while where some poor woman gets raped by an entire village as punishment for adultery. Let's not pile up on an already unfortunate situation by suggesting that the perpetrator of a tiny crime (if a rather temperate tweet that called a joke "not cool" can even be called a crime) has to apologize in the wake of other people's much, much larger crimes (from the firing of one of the jokers to rape threats to death threats).
On a larger note, it's never a minority group's responsibility to keep the majority prejudice-free. We really need to dispose of the silly notion that it's our responsibility as women in tech to be 100% perfect lest some men decide to withdraw their respect. We do not deserve to be held to a higher standard than men who engage in irrational, drama llama or otherwise childish behavior all the time (case in point, the dongle joke that started the whole thing).
Our reputation does not need to be "returned" because it was never "lost". Adria Richards, take care of yourself.
P.S. You said, I don't like how she's trying to speak for me and want her to apologize. Do you not see that she was not trying to speak for you any more than you tried to speak for me just now? That being born a woman does not make you the speaker for, or responsible for the reputation of, your entire gender? Otherwise you have exact same thing to apologize for.
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#16I was wondering the same thing the other day. I think she's hiding out and probably not sure about her next move. I don't know her at all but I emailed her to tell her that she has done lots of good and will be forgiven if she explains where she screwed up. Nobody deserves to be told they should be raped etc. and I think the only way for some of the public overreaction to stop is for her to admit her own overreaction…
Women in tech need you now to return our reputation to what it was before your outburst. I disagree. She needs to attend to her physical safety, first and foremost, and her mental health, a close second. The overreaction to her tiny tweet was about a million to one and her very public flogging was so out of proportion and so misogynistic and racist that if I were her, I'd be scarred for life. It reminded me of those…
Thanks for the input and keeping the conversation going. I respect you have your opinion but I want to address some points (just to specify, and you're of course entitled to your opinion either way):
I'm not putting her at a higher standard than a man and I don't think anyone else is. If a guy did this, I honestly think even more people would freak out.
I am speaking for women in tech and I absolutely do not have anything similar to apologize for, simply because of this fact: She said she is speaking for women in tech and she did something stupid. I'm speaking for women in tech saying Adria don't represent women and say you're doing something for women (you're a "hero") when you're actually doing something very wrong. If you want to represent us, apologize then. So yes, that does tarnish us to some degree. She needs to take responsibility for that. If she didn't proclaim to represent us then it wouldn't be a problem to me. I really don't see how that can be argued and why you're as offended as if I ruined someone's career/life at pycon. But it is your opinion.
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#17Maybe she's gonna update her github in a few year with cryptic messages in cryptic outdated format. Anyone knows if she ever did any Ruby?
why would anybody do that?
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Women in tech need you now to return our reputation to what it was before your outburst. I disagree. She needs to attend to her physical safety, first and foremost, and her mental health, a close second. The overreaction to her tiny tweet was about a million to one and her very public flogging was so out of proportion and so misogynistic and racist that if I were her, I'd be scarred for life. It reminded me of those…
Thanks for the input and keeping the conversation going. I respect you have your opinion but I want to address some points (just to specify, and you're of course entitled to your opinion either way): I'm not putting her at a higher standard than a man and I don't think anyone else is. If a guy did this, I honestly think even more people would freak out. I am speaking for women in tech and I absolutely do not have any…
If she didn't proclaim to represent us then it wouldn't be a problem to me. I really don't see how that can be argued.
She said she is speaking for women in tech.
Quote please? I don't think she said or proclaimed anything of the sort. (I've just re-read her tweets and her blog post, and I couldn't find anything).
I'm speaking for women in tech.
Please stop. You do not speak for me, or any other women in tech. Your opinion is your own.
You're as offended as if I ruined someone's career/life at pycon.
I am not offended at all. Please re-read my post. Which parts did you think said or implied that you've ruined anyone's life or career?
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the input and keeping the conversation going. I respect you have your opinion but I want to address some points (just to specify, and you're of course entitled to your opinion either way): I'm not putting her at a higher standard than a man and I don't think anyone else is. If a guy did this, I honestly think even more people would freak out. I am speaking for women in tech and I absolutely do not have any…
If she didn't proclaim to represent us then it wouldn't be a problem to me. I really don't see how that can be argued. She said she is speaking for women in tech. Quote please? I don't think she said or proclaimed anything of the sort. (I've just re-read her tweets and her blog post, and I couldn't find anything). I'm speaking for women in tech . Please stop. You do not speak for me, or any other women in tech. Your…
You're saying I need to apologize. That shows me you're offended.
I don't have the quote on me, but it's online. Google more if you care to see it.
If you don't want me to speak for you, that's fine. I'm just saying most women in general would be offended to be represented by Adria and I'm saying most of us (all the dev women I know so far) are not interested in being made to look stupid through her self-proclaimed representation. I'm just trying to defend that and I'm sorry you were offended in the process. Your voice definitely counts too. I just don't understand it (I'm honestly trying).
Re: What ever happened to Adria Richards?
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
If she didn't proclaim to represent us then it wouldn't be a problem to me. I really don't see how that can be argued. She said she is speaking for women in tech. Quote please? I don't think she said or proclaimed anything of the sort. (I've just re-read her tweets and her blog post, and I couldn't find anything). I'm speaking for women in tech . Please stop. You do not speak for me, or any other women in tech. Your…
You're saying I need to apologize. That shows me you're offended. I don't have the quote on me, but it's online. Google more if you care to see it. If you don't want me to speak for you, that's fine. I'm just saying most women in general would be offended to be represented by Adria and I'm saying most of us (all the dev women I know so far) are not interested in being made to look stupid through her self-proclaimed r…
I don't have the quote on me, but it's online. Google more if you care to see it.
You have made a false claim about what Adria Richards said. If you do not have a quote to back it up, how can I be expected to? How could I possibly find a quote that doesn't exist?
I'm just saying most women in general would be offended to be represented by Adria.
You keep repeating that she represents all women. She doesn't. And you don't know how most women feel based on your own feelings.
You're saying I need to apologize. That shows me you're offended.
I said no such thing. Again, please re-read my post.
Your voice definitely counts too. I just don't understand it (I'm honestly trying).
No, you are not "honestly" trying. You've accused Adria Richards of saying something she didn't, I asked for a quote, and your response was "google it", even though I already said "I've just re-read her tweets and her blog post, and I couldn't find anything". You are also intentionally arguing with things I did not say; implying that I am emotional ("offended") to avoid arguing on substance; and using sarcasm like, "most women are not interested in being made to look stupid" because what, some women like me are? This is not how people maintain an honest and healthy discussion.