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Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by bsg75 »

ultimoo wrote: post #26
sendob wrote: post #11

"“The biggest advantage I have with Microsoft is I don’t have to go to any other vendor for any solution -- I can go to one partner for all of my operating systems, all of my development environment and all of my infrastructure tools,” he said. “Why would I waste time looking at another third-party." ^Interesting viewpoint.

Having worked in India for more than 3 years, most developers I knew hadn't ventured outside of the MS ecosystem. Xerox's business services divisions (who made this statement) likely satisfy large enterprises working on MS technologies for Customer Care, HR, Payroll using the readily available workforce in India.

How much of this is influenced my vendor participation in schools?

I experienced a situation in a US university where a computational statistics program was more about SAS than the theory in general. The program was more about a brand certification, than an overview of tools and techniques.

IMO, the approach in a public university is poisonous.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by shmerl »

sendob wrote: post #11

"“The biggest advantage I have with Microsoft is I don’t have to go to any other vendor for any solution -- I can go to one partner for all of my operating systems, all of my development environment and all of my infrastructure tools,” he said. “Why would I waste time looking at another third-party." ^Interesting viewpoint.

It's only interesting until the need arises to go elsewhere. Then it becomes really bad, since MS doesn't make it easy after you are too used to not paying attention to the pitfalls of lock-in.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by gecko »

ianstallings wrote: post #12

Knowing the price of Azure that should mean they have roughly pulls out calculator and hits some keys .. 12 customers.

Microsoft's prices for Azure are actually very reasonable, and I generally find their tools easier to configure and use in real life. Microsoft makes some horrible products, but I actually really like Azure a lot.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by sriramk »

gravitronic wrote: post #29
marshray wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not " the azure SSL certificate", it's more that there are a great many of them being used internally between many systems.

It caused a global outage for SSL access to their cloud storage. Two years in a row. Close enough.

They were two very distinct issues, both in retrospect, should have been preventable. One was a cert not getting renewed correctly (which is really more of an engg/ops process thing) and the other was a piece of code that did date checks incorrectly.

[Disclaimer - early and long time Azure guy at MSFT]

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by jf22 »

bsg75 wrote: post #27
jf22 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an MS dev with a little Django, Rails and PHP experience and I'm always sort of overwhelmed with the choices I have non-ms environments. Recently I wanted to get a simple laptop for Python development and I don't know how to begin selecting the right tools for the job. I see myself having to make all sorts of evaluations I'm just too inexperienced to make. Which OS? Whats PyPy good for? Is it supported on Ubuntu?…

Knowing how to find the answers to such question is an element of being an expert - not knowing all the answers, but knowing how to find them. Djanjo, Python, Rails, and PHP can run find in a Windows environment, but the community is rooted Linux (and OSX to some degree), thus the amount of quality resources available for your research is greater. Same goes for .NET - more Windows information is available compared to…

Totally agree with you however what I'm finding to be the most difficult is a lot of getting started resources tend to be using different nuances of the Python programming environment.

My goal is to setup an environment closest to what I'd see in the field but its really hard to determine what that means.

In the ms world when you bounce jobs getting up and running usually involves using the same three programs you always use.

From reading about python I'm getting the sense that there is so much more variety out there in the field.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by sriramk »

curiousDog wrote: post #15

Could definitely be true if revenue from internal customers (Office 365, Hotmail, Xbox etc) is included.

I don't think either Hotmail or Office 365 use Azure in non-trivial amounts, or atleast they didn't in my time there until 2011.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by outside1234 »

bradhe wrote: post #2

There is absolutely, positively, certifiably no way this is even close to true. Did the people are bloomberg even look at Microsoft's figures, or were they too busy counting the cash MS sent over?

You do know that Microsoft is dominant in Enterprise and that that is where most IT dollars are spent.

The more surprising thing to me is that Microsoft isn't burying Amazon. But give them 2 years.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by avenger123 »

jf22 wrote: post #24
sendob wrote: post #11

"“The biggest advantage I have with Microsoft is I don’t have to go to any other vendor for any solution -- I can go to one partner for all of my operating systems, all of my development environment and all of my infrastructure tools,” he said. “Why would I waste time looking at another third-party." ^Interesting viewpoint.

I'm an MS dev with a little Django, Rails and PHP experience and I'm always sort of overwhelmed with the choices I have non-ms environments. Recently I wanted to get a simple laptop for Python development and I don't know how to begin selecting the right tools for the job. I see myself having to make all sorts of evaluations I'm just too inexperienced to make. Which OS? Whats PyPy good for? Is it supported on Ubuntu?…

You know, to some extent, this is a direct result of working with Microsoft tools. I am generalizing but Microsoft developers get to used to getting mostly nice and tidy answers to everything (regardless if its good).

With open-source, my gosh, you actually have to do some analysis and make a sound judgement without having the Microsoft mothership tell you whether its good or bad.

I don't dispute that the choices can be seen as overwhelming but this is where experience and your own curiosity work best. You don't have the experience, well there is many many people that do and are willing to share their knowledge. It does require a desire to learn. The more you investigate, the better your filter on what is good or what is bull improves.

I use Microsoft tools, they have their place. It's not a question off giving up control and power, its a question of, what makes you better? Understanding the dirty work that it takes to make software, OS, web frameworks, etc. work, or having a nice little button that does this for you (I know this is a gross exaggeration).

If you have that curiosity to understand the details even behind Microsoft tech, using Microsoft is just another tool.

Re: Microsoft Azure Sales Top $1 Billion, Challenging Amazon

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Post by danielrhodes »

bradhe wrote: post #2

There is absolutely, positively, certifiably no way this is even close to true. Did the people are bloomberg even look at Microsoft's figures, or were they too busy counting the cash MS sent over?

It's clearly a puff piece. Having said that, there are a lot of MS server customers and I can imagine Azure being a compelling option if you don't want to do a rewrite.
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