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Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by Filligree » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 8:58 AM UTC

citricsquid wrote: post #9

claudius wrote: post #8

I haven’t bought any game released after 2004[0] – simply because in my opinion, gameplay has suffered a lot lately. I can recall spending years building stuff in Pharao when I was a kid and recently had a lot of fun (months!) playing Patrician II/III, bought from GOG. Where are these games nowadays? [0] The latest game I bought on Steam was Counter Strike: Source, mostly because it was on sale and bundled up with so…

Have you tried Minecraft? There are players racking up thousands of hours with it.

Me being one of them. :-)

Base minecraft isn't that great, though some people seem to like it. Add on a pack like Feed the Beast, though, and it gets really interesting - I'm working my way up the tech tree in Mindcrack at the moment.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by johncagula » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 8:59 AM UTC

http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by ropiku » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:00 AM UTC

citricsquid wrote: post #9

claudius wrote: post #8

I haven’t bought any game released after 2004[0] – simply because in my opinion, gameplay has suffered a lot lately. I can recall spending years building stuff in Pharao when I was a kid and recently had a lot of fun (months!) playing Patrician II/III, bought from GOG. Where are these games nowadays? [0] The latest game I bought on Steam was Counter Strike: Source, mostly because it was on sale and bundled up with so…

Have you tried Minecraft? There are players racking up thousands of hours with it.

Exactly. I'm a big Minecraft and FeedTheBeast(mod packs) fan. And the game keeps getting updated and mods get more and more complex.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by onli » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:01 AM UTC

The irony is great. But I fear it is possible that wasn't such a good idea. Given the graphs, there were 4k people interested in the game. Over 90% of them now have the impression that the game is unplayable long-term because of the message-box. Maybe many of them get the hint, but those who don't might generate bad pr and prevent others from buying it.

But well, maybe that article combined with answers to the complaining players will spread the word wide enough. At least that now makes the game known.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by algorias » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:02 AM UTC

While I think this is a very clever idea, it's also somewhat dishonest. In the game world, pirates cause studios to go bankrupt. In the real world, the causal link is not as clear.

People arguing that piracy is ruining gamedev routinely ignore the fact that those who pirate don't necessarily have the means to buy many games; their choice is purely between pirating and not playing. Of those 90% or more who pirate the game, it's probably less than 10% who can be persuaded to actually buy it.

Anyway, I'm curious to see how this attempt unfolds.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by bayesianhorse » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:02 AM UTC

Actually that post made me want to buy the game.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by JonnieCache » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:03 AM UTC

Yesterday I bought some mp3s legally off amazon. They were 128 kbit/s. I deleted them out of rage/spite and ordered the CD, which is out of print and so all the money went to a second hand record dealer. If only I'd had recourse to piracy in that instance!

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by qznc » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:04 AM UTC

I try a cracked version, if there is no free demo available. This particular game does have a demo, though.

If you do not want to go down the DRM route, this approach of publishing your own cracked version is probably best. A at least you have a little control, since you can make subtly change [0] the experience for crack users (very punny ;).

I agree with the author that convenience is a big factor. If it easier to download a cracked version compared to paying the developer, there is a problem. Since we are on HN, how about a service which helps game devs to put their games on as many stores (Steam,Desura,Ubuntu,Play,Apple,etc) as possible? It is probably a lot of work for single person devs. A little fee upfront and a percentage of the income, so it is a pretty quick buck for the game dev.

[0] http://thepiratebay.is/torrent/6617784/No_Time_To_Explain_Wi...

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by claudius » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:04 AM UTC

citricsquid wrote: post #9

claudius wrote: post #8

I haven’t bought any game released after 2004[0] – simply because in my opinion, gameplay has suffered a lot lately. I can recall spending years building stuff in Pharao when I was a kid and recently had a lot of fun (months!) playing Patrician II/III, bought from GOG. Where are these games nowadays? [0] The latest game I bought on Steam was Counter Strike: Source, mostly because it was on sale and bundled up with so…

Have you tried Minecraft? There are players racking up thousands of hours with it.

I have to admit, no(, not yet). Probably mostly because I was happily mudding away when it first came out and caused this big hype with people playing it in lecture theatres etc. Judging from past experience, I will probably get to it around 2020 :\

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by Dylan16807 » Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:05 AM UTC

This is pretty amusing but it sounds like the piracy model in the game is pretty unrealistic. A high level of piracy is typical, and while it can hurt games it doesn't destroy them.