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Re: Ask HN: What web development language do you prefer?

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Post by codewright »

zalew wrote: post #40
codewright wrote: post #39

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More powerful language (primitives, concision, macros), more performance (JVM fun-ness). Some aspects of the JVM (slow-start) are icky but the tooling works around it (in-runtime auto-reload without restarting the JVM). I'm a grumpy old CL'er so I was waiting for something like Clojure to come along anyway.

tx, but I meant the toolset and ecosystem, not the language features. popular frameworks, libs, out of the box solutions, opensource community, etc. - is clojure rich in this matter?

It's not as good as Python yet but rapidly getting better.

There's an excellent SQL abstraction library (Korma), Ring makes for a nice WSGI equivalent, Compojure and Clabango combined give you a Flask'ish experience, and there are a goodly number of Forms and validation libraries.

Some like to use CLJS on the frontend. There are libraries out there for making that nice.

I usually use vanilla jQuery or Angular on the frontend, no CLJS.

You need get more specific with your queries, I'm not going to write a novel at the merest hint.

Re: Ask HN: What web development language do you prefer?

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Post by zalew »

codewright wrote: post #41
zalew wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tx, but I meant the toolset and ecosystem, not the language features. popular frameworks, libs, out of the box solutions, opensource community, etc. - is clojure rich in this matter?

It's not as good as Python yet but rapidly getting better. There's an excellent SQL abstraction library (Korma), Ring makes for a nice WSGI equivalent, Compojure and Clabango combined give you a Flask'ish experience, and there are a goodly number of Forms and validation libraries. Some like to use CLJS on the frontend. There are libraries out there for making that nice. I usually use vanilla jQuery or Angular on the…

tx. I was curious how it'd look like to replicate an example full stack of a Python project and you basically covered it. I remeber looking around some time ago and then Noir looked like the go to framework for Clojure, but now it seems discontinued. gotta try CL some day.

Re: Ask HN: What web development language do you prefer?

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Post by dizzystar »

147 wrote: post #36
ameen wrote: post #27

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Mind sharing your tutorials. I've also been interested in Clojure for quite a while but never really got around to getting started.

I only have one tutorial written, I actually just finished it just before writing that comment. You can get to it here. http://folkrobots.com/2013/04/27/clojure-compojure-tutorial-... It's only a hello world web application example, not sure if you'd be interested in that. I plan on going through building a simple blog and then building upon that with tutorials for authentication, form validation, etc. I'm also still…

Why don't you use Compojure?

Re: Ask HN: What web development language do you prefer?

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Post by codewright »

zalew wrote: post #42
codewright wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as good as Python yet but rapidly getting better. There's an excellent SQL abstraction library (Korma), Ring makes for a nice WSGI equivalent, Compojure and Clabango combined give you a Flask'ish experience, and there are a goodly number of Forms and validation libraries. Some like to use CLJS on the frontend. There are libraries out there for making that nice. I usually use vanilla jQuery or Angular on the…

tx. I was curious how it'd look like to replicate an example full stack of a Python project and you basically covered it. I remeber looking around some time ago and then Noir looked like the go to framework for Clojure, but now it seems discontinued. gotta try CL some day.

CL is Common Lisp.

The go-to for Clojure is Luminus, which is less of a framework and more of a "web best practices" project template.

Re: Ask HN: What web development language do you prefer?

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Post by zalew »

codewright wrote: post #44
zalew wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tx. I was curious how it'd look like to replicate an example full stack of a Python project and you basically covered it. I remeber looking around some time ago and then Noir looked like the go to framework for Clojure, but now it seems discontinued. gotta try CL some day.

CL is Common Lisp. The go-to for Clojure is Luminus, which is less of a framework and more of a "web best practices" project template.

oops, I meant CLojure :D not very fluent in the Lisp department. tx for the tips.
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