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Re: Facebook buys Parse

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As a Parse user I had hoped they would be a "never sell" type of company. This news saddens me. We will likely be migrating off soon.

As someone who was just about to use Parse, what options are you looking at?

We are already using GAE for some cron stuff that Parse didn't support, so we will probably just roll our own API with GAE.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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The person who wrote "That's incorrect" is a Parse founder ( https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=csmajorfive ).

Does that make his statement more or less likely to be accurate?

More likely to be accurate.

If the original statement had a nugget of truth it would be easiest to just ignore it and not answer. Instead, they are going on the record and saying its not true.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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This doesn't surprise me in that it seems like a natural fit for Facebook, who has a Mobile Problem [tm]. As much as people fear Facebook becoming The Internet (in the AOL sense), Facebook is actually really late to this party. Apple has a mobile OS, a content and payments ecosystem and a deeply integrated set of products. Google has a mobile OS, GMail, a search engine, a burgeoning content ecosystem and its Maps/loc…

Odd that all the relevant backlash comments are pushed to the bottom.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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So the Parse platform allowed me to get and implement my iOS app in under a month, getting my MVP out there. If you want to really assure users that they can be comfortable, and to not flee, make it so we have access to our user's password hashes. Before, the Parse team said they were thinking of implementing it, but now there's no contest. Either you guys allow me to take my user data, or we're done, and I'm complet…

We export password hashes right now, as far as I know. Is that not the case?

Nope, not from the last export I did a few weeks ago. Please check and make sure, because this is a crucial link to the level of trust with the continue support of Parse and FB

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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Damn. I was going to use Parse for my app, but now I will not. What are some of the alternatives out there?

If you're an enterprise developer, AnyPresence is a great option. Hands down the best MBaaS for enterprise, and the ONLY solution that won't lock you in (i.e., you own not just the data, but also the run-time components (code, server, etc). Check them out - http://www.anypresence.com .

iKnode doesn't lock you in at all. ;)

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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If google keeps ramming their social network product down peoples throats it won't be very long before they have more than just a social networking problem.

As a user my G+ experience is so far superior to my Facebook one that I laugh every time I read something like this. I check my G+ every day because my streams are interesting and I enjoy it; I check my FB everyday because my entire extended family, pre-school friends and their dogs have accounts there. People are crazy to think that Google should not just have one account that spans all their services, it makes busi…

I don't use facebook either. So G+ is far inferior because at least I can get facebook out of my life.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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It's really not that hard to understand why Facebook "actually" bought Parse. Parse has a great product that developers like to use. Facebook has a platform and that requires making users and developers happy. Buying a product that makes developers happy and making it a part of Facebook's platform is a pretty straightforward strategy.

That's an incorrect explanation. Facebook has a platform and that requires making users and developers happy. No, Facebook has a platform that requires extracting as much personal data from people as possible in order to sell ads to advertisers. The developer platform, apps, etc, are all subordinate to this objective. There's no business model for Facebook to "make people happy". It is absolutely an advertising compa…

That is a pretty big misunderstanding of how Facebook operates. If Facebook put advertisers ahead of users, it would not be at 1B users and it would not have been around for 8 years, and dominant for many of those years. The business model is primarily to make people happy to make sure to have their attention, and secondarily to sell ads against this attention.

I've worked at Amazon, Google, and Facebook. The core characteristic of each of these companies is that they are all ruthlessly focused on their primary customer as the user, not as the retailer or the advertiser. And it is for this reason that they get to massive scale and become dominant. If you don't get this, then you won't understand why Parse is a clear fit.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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That's an incorrect explanation. Facebook has a platform and that requires making users and developers happy. No, Facebook has a platform that requires extracting as much personal data from people as possible in order to sell ads to advertisers. The developer platform, apps, etc, are all subordinate to this objective. There's no business model for Facebook to "make people happy". It is absolutely an advertising compa…

That is a pretty big misunderstanding of how Facebook operates. If Facebook put advertisers ahead of users, it would not be at 1B users and it would not have been around for 8 years, and dominant for many of those years. The business model is primarily to make people happy to make sure to have their attention, and secondarily to sell ads against this attention. I've worked at Amazon, Google, and Facebook. The core ch…

Ah, that ruthless focus on keeping the users and the developer community happy must be why Google killed Reader and will probably kill Feedburner soon, and why so many great products got acquired and then killed by their new owners a few years later.

You're right that if you believe what you just declared, then Parse's future at Facebook seems reasonable. You're also right that we won't convince each other of our views on this, so I guess time will tell whether Parse continues to thrive or gets shitcanned in a few years.

Re: Facebook buys Parse

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As a user my G+ experience is so far superior to my Facebook one that I laugh every time I read something like this. I check my G+ every day because my streams are interesting and I enjoy it; I check my FB everyday because my entire extended family, pre-school friends and their dogs have accounts there. People are crazy to think that Google should not just have one account that spans all their services, it makes busi…

I don't use facebook either. So G+ is far inferior because at least I can get facebook out of my life.

Do you just not like the name? As voidlogic points out, it's basically a generic account for Google services. There's a potential to engage socially, but you don't have to.
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