CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
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Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#2"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#3"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
As long as the people that wish to see it pass are around there's a group of people that don't want to see it pass fighting it. If we keep the public educated on the consequences of such bills we'll keep playing this game but hopefully gain a bit more support on each iteration.
This is one of those scenarios, as I see it, where it is as easy as supporting the groups battling on the hill and educating/informing your friends when the topic comes up over a beer or such. My girlfriend asked me yesterday about what a "Kispah" was. Once I figured out what the hell she was talking about I simply gave her the quick overview of what it was introduced for and why it is against our best interests. She knows now and can make up her own decisions on support.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#4"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
As long as the people that wish to see it pass are around there's a group of people that don't want to see it pass fighting it. If we keep the public educated on the consequences of such bills we'll keep playing this game but hopefully gain a bit more support on each iteration. This is one of those scenarios, as I see it, where it is as easy as supporting the groups battling on the hill and educating/informing your f…
That is the thing though. The senators and interest groups who want this passed understand how to work around their opponents. I'd predict there will be some sort of major hacking scare and this bill will piggyback on that and pass while everyone is scared and willing to forego their rights.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#5"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
The US Legislative System is built for gridlock. Lots of things come up again and again over the decades, but passage remains unlikely - especially for an issue where the opposition is more engaged (see gun control).
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as the people that wish to see it pass are around there's a group of people that don't want to see it pass fighting it. If we keep the public educated on the consequences of such bills we'll keep playing this game but hopefully gain a bit more support on each iteration. This is one of those scenarios, as I see it, where it is as easy as supporting the groups battling on the hill and educating/informing your f…
That is the thing though. The senators and interest groups who want this passed understand how to work around their opponents. I'd predict there will be some sort of major hacking scare and this bill will piggyback on that and pass while everyone is scared and willing to forego their rights.
I will predict that this does not happen within the next 5 years, 85% confidence.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is the thing though. The senators and interest groups who want this passed understand how to work around their opponents. I'd predict there will be some sort of major hacking scare and this bill will piggyback on that and pass while everyone is scared and willing to forego their rights.
I will predict that this does not happen within the next 5 years, 85% confidence.
Questionable confidence ratings aside, what you're betting against is a very narrow example of the many things that could happen that would push this through. It died once and is back; it got farther this time, and whether it's because of a hacking scare, because even fewer people are paying attention, or for any of myriad other reasons, it will eventually go through.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as the people that wish to see it pass are around there's a group of people that don't want to see it pass fighting it. If we keep the public educated on the consequences of such bills we'll keep playing this game but hopefully gain a bit more support on each iteration. This is one of those scenarios, as I see it, where it is as easy as supporting the groups battling on the hill and educating/informing your f…
That is the thing though. The senators and interest groups who want this passed understand how to work around their opponents. I'd predict there will be some sort of major hacking scare and this bill will piggyback on that and pass while everyone is scared and willing to forego their rights.
Yeah, they'll just chop it into pieces and attach them to "must pass" legislation. These guys know what they're doing.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#9"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
No joke- Obama threatened a veto on privacy concerns and the senate punted on it- and yet:
The government is dead serious about turning every sizable company on the internet into a part of a gross-national cybersecurity infrastrucutre maintainer, and they are not going to quit until the internet has been adequately leashed by the legislative hand.
If corporations are people, this is definitely a violation of the 3rd amendment. Look it up, you probably haven't heard of it in the past couple hundred years or so.
Re: CISPA 'dead' in Senate, privacy concerns cited
#10"Undead" is more like. This thing will keep coming back under different names until it passes.
No joke- Obama threatened a veto on privacy concerns and the senate punted on it- and yet: The government is dead serious about turning every sizable company on the internet into a part of a gross-national cybersecurity infrastrucutre maintainer, and they are not going to quit until the internet has been adequately leashed by the legislative hand. If corporations are people, this is definitely a violation of the 3rd…
The 3rd amendment doesn't exist anymore. It only applies in time of peace, and we are now in an eternal global war on terror.