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Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by BenoitEssiambre »

jcastro wrote: post #145
BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #100

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It's weird, I've been on Linux for almost 20 years and Ubuntu as my main computer for 10 and for me it's the opposite. I find OSX has finally almost caught up to Linux with Mountain Lion. It's crazy how many OSX features come from the unix world but in a delayed, better looking fashion. The last missing major piece for OSX was good multiple workspace management, which came in the form of mission control and the touch…

> The other Ubuntu regression which annoys me to no end and again is the same in OSX is that clicking on a dock icon when you are in a workspace and there is an instance of the app opened in another workspace makes you automatically jump to the other one instead of opening a new instance in the current workspace. If you middle click the icon it will open a new one instead of taking you to an existing one.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. However, since I set my middle button to go to the workspace switcher there's a conflict.

I just tried it and it does open a new instance _and_ go to the switcher which is not great.

Also most of the time if there is already an app window in the workspace, I would want it to be made visible not a new instance to be opened.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by dguido »

Are there any security improvements worth mentioning in this release? Ubuntu used to be at the forefront of security on Linux and kept track of improvements made per release on their wiki. This effort seems to have stalled after the departure of key personnel and nothing has changed in a year or more.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by platz »

chez17 wrote: post #97
willismichael wrote: post #75

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I went through a phase in which I wanted to be able to go to great lengths to customize the UI. Lately I've realized that in the end, virtually all of my "power user" use cases are served by the terminal and emacs. When it comes to the UI, I just want something with reasonable behavior, that allows me to launch apps, and generally stays out of the way. Now days when I set up a new linux machine it's mostly just a mat…

I think everyone goes through that phase. I use spend hours customizing my desktop. Finding the perfect image, icons, size of the task bar, setting up some crazy conky displays, etc... Now it's i3 with a plain black background.

I'm using i3 as well and am loving it.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by alanmackenzie »

austinbirch wrote: post #61
Newky wrote: post #51

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Wow, thats a great new feature. This is one thing that really infuriates me about new android devices. Their lack of syncing support with linux boxes. Does anyone know if this support is something that can be backported to 12.04?

I had some success following this[1], though it didn’t seem to handle transferring lots of files at once very well. [1]: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-supp...

Thanks, that was an incredibly helpful link.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by kunai »

mindstab wrote: post #138
dave1010uk wrote: post #57

Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

"Actually, having a workaround by definition lessens the severity, as if someone wants to still run Skype, they can." I don't think everyone is on the same page about Ubuntu being a consumer distro and not a hacker's only distro... I have definitely noticed a decrease in the stability of Ubuntu releases over the years and it's attitudes like this that seem to be in part responsible for it. EDIT: Oh I kept reading, th…

> many of my programers are too busy being productive to be interested in dicking around with making things work anymore, and increasingly I hold this view

This. I switched to OS X from Ubuntu about a few months ago simply because of this reason. I was too tired of tinkering and configuring endless .conf files, adjusting my GNOME/Xfce panel layouts for optimum productivity, and changing my display manager because all of them sucked.

In my final days with Linux I was running Ubuntu Minimal with twm -- I went completely old-school. Fewer things at the core, fewer things to go wrong.

I caved and bought a MacBook Air. While I miss the endless configurability of Linux, I find that most of the time I spend trying to configure OS X is only spent to make things more suitable for my workflow -- changing the number of desktops I have, changing the applications in my dock, or adjusting Exposé to show all app windows.

I never have to configure something because it breaks or isn't compatible with something else. I could have gone the FreeBSD way, but then, well, you know. OS X just works. As a Ruby and Java developer I find it perfect. I probably will try the 13.04 release on the Mac (I tried the beta and liked it), and I'll see how it goes.

It looks like a solid release, so I'd really like to keep it (but I probably won't because I'm cheap and only have the 120gig SSD).

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by jneen »

mindstab wrote: post #138
dave1010uk wrote: post #57

Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

"Actually, having a workaround by definition lessens the severity, as if someone wants to still run Skype, they can." I don't think everyone is on the same page about Ubuntu being a consumer distro and not a hacker's only distro... I have definitely noticed a decrease in the stability of Ubuntu releases over the years and it's attitudes like this that seem to be in part responsible for it. EDIT: Oh I kept reading, th…

Guys, Skype is owned by Microsoft, and the Linux version hasn't been touched in like 2 years. I'm frankly not surprised it's b0rked.

So... yes, the user should use software that isn't deprecating support for their platform.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by mrinterweb »

Just a word of warning to anyone who may be thinking of installing this release on a MacBook Pro w/retina. I don't believe there is a window manager available that will play nicely with high DPI. I do hope that the linux community is planning on better supporting very high resolution displays.

13.04 works absolutely wonderfully, on my 2012 MacBook Air. Everything works perfectly for me on that machine.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by emidln »

ing33k wrote: post #167
dave1010uk wrote: post #57

Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

any knows fixes for spotify ?

I don't recall needing any fixes for it, but it crashed randomly enough (and not just on Ubuntu) that I switched to their web client.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by Poiesis »

alirov wrote: post #135
xradionut wrote: post #69

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The only problem I have is with the Nvidia drivers, especially Optimus/separate video card on my laptop which doesn't work. :( But the stock Intel driver works well enough, just don't want to figure out what sort of CLI cargo cult fixing it will take to get it going.

Have you tried using bumblebee[1]? I use it on my Samsung QX411 which has an NVidia GeForce GT 525M video card along with the onboard Intel. The Intel card is used by default at all times. If you want to run a program using the NVidia card, just prepend 'optirun' to the command. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee

I tried bumblebee it on 12.10, after unsuccessfully trying to install Nvidia drivers. It was...not a good experience. Ended up reinstalling 12.10 just to get Unity and a reasonable resolution back. I have no doubt that there was a fix (possibly involving xorg.conf editing) but I had already spent so much time it and I needed to get work done. Hopefully the new release is better here, but I don't hold much hope.

I'm not blaming bumblebee specifically here, it's just a pervasive side effect of Linux and the modular approach. I can really appreciate the integration that goes in to a Mac.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by mindstab »

mrinterweb wrote: post #177

Just a word of warning to anyone who may be thinking of installing this release on a MacBook Pro w/retina. I don't believe there is a window manager available that will play nicely with high DPI. I do hope that the linux community is planning on better supporting very high resolution displays. 13.04 works absolutely wonderfully, on my 2012 MacBook Air. Everything works perfectly for me on that machine.

How high resolution? My laptop looks great and works perfectly with Ubuntu @ 1920 x 1080. What doesn't work?
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