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Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Their timing, especially for us in Europe is really bad. If they announce update it should be available for us before we start doing actual work.

They didn't announce the new version. The post is premature.

Now they did.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

I've upgrade a couple of days ago. Skype works fine, I'm using version 4.1.0.20, not sure if it was upgraded during the process.

Chromium works fine.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

I dunno what happens if you install them after you upgreade, but google-chrome and chromium still work for me, as I installed them long before this upgrade. :)

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

I dunno what happens if you install them after you upgreade, but google-chrome and chromium still work for me, as I installed them long before this upgrade. :)

With chrome it is just in packaging problem - thus chrome is not open source nobody can fix it on their own.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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It was buggy when Cinnamon was new, but now it's really quite stable and proves to be no more or less buggy than stock Ubuntu or any other distro. There were bizarre memory leaks in Cinnamon but those were fixed a long time ago. There is an ongoing issue with Mint Update, but I'm aware a patch has been submitted. In the meantime I just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && exit` every day. (For w…

Why switching to linux mint when you can replace unity by cinnamon while remaining on ubuntu ? Except the desktop, what are the compelling advantages ?

Last time I tried, Cinnamon proved to be exceptionally buggy when running on stock Ubuntu. Also, Mint's default aesthetic is better IMO!

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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I played with the beta and I have to say that it is way more polished than 12.04/12.10. I have played for many years with Linux (since early 1990s) but it was always to much of a hazel to use it as my main os. But since 12.04 I fully switched from OSX to Ubuntu the only thing I kind of missed was the polish of osx. 13.04 makes lots of things nicer and more fluid. I actually like Ubuntu better than osx. One thing left…

It's weird, I've been on Linux for almost 20 years and Ubuntu as my main computer for 10 and for me it's the opposite. I find OSX has finally almost caught up to Linux with Mountain Lion. It's crazy how many OSX features come from the unix world but in a delayed, better looking fashion. The last missing major piece for OSX was good multiple workspace management, which came in the form of mission control and the touch…

I've always just used ctrl-alt-arrow for ubuntu (and other nixes)- add a shift and the current window comes along for a ride. When did this break? (I'm still on 12.04 LTS)

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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It's weird, I've been on Linux for almost 20 years and Ubuntu as my main computer for 10 and for me it's the opposite. I find OSX has finally almost caught up to Linux with Mountain Lion. It's crazy how many OSX features come from the unix world but in a delayed, better looking fashion. The last missing major piece for OSX was good multiple workspace management, which came in the form of mission control and the touch…

I've always just used ctrl-alt-arrow for ubuntu (and other nixes)- add a shift and the current window comes along for a ride. When did this break? (I'm still on 12.04 LTS)

If your hands are on the keyboard that's fine but I also need a good solution for when I am using the pointing device.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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I fully agree. I just want a desktop that stays out of the way. I have ubuntu and I have replaced unity by cinnamon. It is not very polished, but in a couple of minute, you can configure it to be usable.

The desktop that does the best job of staying out of your way is no desktop. I've been using Ubuntu for years without a desktop, just the dwm window manager. Now and then I ask people, because I know the desktops are evolving, what they might have to offer me, but I never get a coherent response.

I really like enlightenment, but the wifi connection manager in e17 baffles me. I've had it working, but it seems to want me to install something else- do I then take out network manager? etc etc.

Unity has a huge flaw, though: to find a program you have to know its name. That sounds silly to non-nixers, but for instance some are known as one thing but actually are named something quite different (e.g., 'Document Viewer' = 'Evince'). In cases where unity doesn't recognize both names this can be a problem.

I used to learn the command-line invocation by looking at the shortcut in the menu. No more in unity (at least I haven't learned how).

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

I don't use Skype (imo.im works much better, and you don't have to install any programs), so I don't know anything about it, but Chrome seems to work.

Why can't I find a download link for linux anywhere?

Oh, there is no download for linux... I'm not much for browser chatting.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

The Skype bug looks like a Multiarch problem and there appears to be a workaround in the bug report:

    LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 skype
which is trivial to implement either in a custom .desktop file dropped in ~/.local/share/applications or a custom launch script in /usr/local/bin (or whatever comes before /usr/bin in your path).
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