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Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by draugadrotten »

kijin wrote: post #31
Icer5k wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd imagine most people on 12.04 will stick with it until 14.04 comes out. 12.04 is an LTS release, and is supported for 3-5 years from the release date where 12.10 through 13.10 are normal releases, and are only supported for 9 months from release. However, anyone on 12.10 should be able to "do-release-upgrade" and upgrade themselves to 13.04.

Minor correction: 13.04 and 13.10 will only be supported for 9 months, but 12.10 will be supported for 18 months.

Duh. That's obvious from the version numbers. Everyone knows that even dozens are supported 18 months and that prime number versions are only supported half of the time.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by barbs »

dave1010uk wrote: post #53
buster wrote: post #4

Now what about releease notes? :-) (edit: some information is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview ) Currently i am thinking of switching to LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) because i don't really like the way Ubuntu is going with Unity, Mir, upstart, doing too much stuff on its own. Anyone with experience from LMDE here? Is it stable? Pros? Cons?

I've switched all my desktop/laptop installs to Xubuntu. All you need to do is "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" and you get a nice, fast, clean desktop. It's also easy to switch back to Ubuntu and, as it's just a remix of Ubuntu, 99% of all the packages just work, support documentation is still valid and practically shares the same user base. Xubuntu is still lead by Ubuntu though and it currently uses upstart.…

I second Xubuntu. Still the distro I use on my linux machine to this day. I actually tried Linux Mint Debian Edition. I think the two main things that turned me off were its inferior support for particular third-party programs (I think they were Skype or Wine), and its general feel (font and window management seemed rough). This was about a year ago I think, so YMMV

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by RyanMcGreal »

etfb wrote: post #70
buster wrote: post #4

Now what about releease notes? :-) (edit: some information is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview ) Currently i am thinking of switching to LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) because i don't really like the way Ubuntu is going with Unity, Mir, upstart, doing too much stuff on its own. Anyone with experience from LMDE here? Is it stable? Pros? Cons?

My experience with Mint less than a year ago was that the Cinnamon interface was so bugridden I actually looked forward to going back to Unity. The only real bug I've encountered in Unity is the integration between it and LibreOffice that renders menu keyboard shortcuts inoperative (Alt+F doesn't open the File menu, and so on). It's a known problem but the Ubuntu, Debian, Unity, Gnome, LibreOffice and OpenOffice peop…

I used Cinnamon for a while, and occasionally the desktop would freeze and I'd have to restart X.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by fulafel »

smithzvk wrote: post #54

Why do they still recommend 32 bit for everybody? I have been using 64 whenever possible. I wonder if any weird behavior can be attributed to it?

Last I looked, they had ~30% of users running on 64-bit incapable hardware, and they don't want to ask techincal hardware questions on the download page. For example Intel Atom CPUs only got 64-bit relatively recently, the earlier netbook generations were 32-bit only.

Edit: found the source. It was actually 25%, a year ago. And the other reason was that the error message when trying 64-bit on incapable hardware was very cryptic. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-April/03...

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by fixedd »

Newky wrote: post #51
ThePinion wrote: post #6

I've been using it for a month and haven't regret a single second of it. by the way, Nexus 7 and other MTP device users: plug your device in and enjoy full read write support by default :)

Wow, thats a great new feature. This is one thing that really infuriates me about new android devices. Their lack of syncing support with linux boxes. Does anyone know if this support is something that can be backported to 12.04?

Adding support was pretty trivial in the past, install a package and edit a config file. Just google your device + ubuntu and you'll more than likely find instructions.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by shritesh »

dumi wrote: post #21

Anybody have the link for Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 release note or for download links?

Here you go, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/raring/relea...

This is the closest to any release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_G...

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by webreac »

willismichael wrote: post #75
kostya-kow wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is still possible to customize Ubuntu, but you cannot customize Unity itself. It is no longer the goal of canonical. Canonical is trying to make an OS for an average person, who doesn't care about customization. Power users (ie normal GNU/Linux users) are not their target audience.

I went through a phase in which I wanted to be able to go to great lengths to customize the UI. Lately I've realized that in the end, virtually all of my "power user" use cases are served by the terminal and emacs. When it comes to the UI, I just want something with reasonable behavior, that allows me to launch apps, and generally stays out of the way. Now days when I set up a new linux machine it's mostly just a mat…

I fully agree. I just want a desktop that stays out of the way. I have ubuntu and I have replaced unity by cinnamon. It is not very polished, but in a couple of minute, you can configure it to be usable.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by keithpeter »

draugadrotten wrote: post #81
kijin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minor correction: 13.04 and 13.10 will only be supported for 9 months, but 12.10 will be supported for 18 months.

Duh. That's obvious from the version numbers. Everyone knows that even dozens are supported 18 months and that prime number versions are only supported half of the time.

Ubuntu technical board decided to shorten the support window for the 'between LTS' releases from 18 to 9 months starting from 13.04.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_reduces_suppo...

Number theory not required.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by kizza »

dave1010uk wrote: post #57

Warning: according to the known issues in the release log [0]: * Skype won't start (without a fix [1]) * Google Chrome won't install (without a fix [2]) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226002#c...

I'm using Chromium from the Ubuntu repository, which is good enough for me until they get it sorted out.

Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

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Post by webreac »

kintamanimatt wrote: post #64
simon_weber wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried stock Mint for some time, but found it buggy. I was a longtime Ubuntu user before that, having switched for reasons similar to yours. Since then I've moved on to CrunchBang [0], which I absolutely love. For me, it hits the sweet spot of having everything I need without all the extra pizzazz (cruft?) of something like Ubuntu or Mint. [0] http://crunchbang.org

It was buggy when Cinnamon was new, but now it's really quite stable and proves to be no more or less buggy than stock Ubuntu or any other distro. There were bizarre memory leaks in Cinnamon but those were fixed a long time ago. There is an ongoing issue with Mint Update, but I'm aware a patch has been submitted. In the meantime I just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && exit` every day. (For w…

Why switching to linux mint when you can replace unity by cinnamon while remaining on ubuntu ? Except the desktop, what are the compelling advantages ?
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