Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released
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Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released
#12Who will be upgrading from 12.04? :-)
I'd imagine most people on 12.04 will stick with it until 14.04 comes out. 12.04 is an LTS release, and is supported for 3-5 years from the release date where 12.10 through 13.10 are normal releases, and are only supported for 9 months from release. However, anyone on 12.10 should be able to "do-release-upgrade" and upgrade themselves to 13.04.
life is short, upgrade and feel it imo :-)
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#13Now what about releease notes? :-) (edit: some information is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview ) Currently i am thinking of switching to LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) because i don't really like the way Ubuntu is going with Unity, Mir, upstart, doing too much stuff on its own. Anyone with experience from LMDE here? Is it stable? Pros? Cons?
I switch to Korora for my laptop. It is basically the Mint of Fedora. Quite happy so far.
My feeling is that Fedora has the better engineering, but Ubuntu has better polish. Korora puts some icing on top: good font rendering, Adobe Reader, Skype, nvidia drivers.
Fedora stays closer to upstream than Ubuntu. They just package Gnome 3 for example.
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#14Doesn't seem to be any point for me [1], I don't use Python, or Libreoffice. And I use gnome-session-fallback, can't stand Unity, and just wish they'd give me an OOBE setting for having an 'old-school' Gnome 3 session! Although Linux 3.8.8 might well make me upgrade. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview
Don't update, then, and use whatever distribution suits you better. It's one the greatest things about Linux, choice.
No change/upgrade will ever fit every user. I use Python, Libreoffice (not that these are really dependant of the new release) and I like Unity, can't wait to try it out.
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#15I played with the beta and I have to say that it is way more polished than 12.04/12.10. I have played for many years with Linux (since early 1990s) but it was always to much of a hazel to use it as my main os. But since 12.04 I fully switched from OSX to Ubuntu the only thing I kind of missed was the polish of osx. 13.04 makes lots of things nicer and more fluid. I actually like Ubuntu better than osx. One thing left to do is to get some descent icons and getting rid of the default orange :)
Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released
#16Who will be upgrading from 12.04? :-)
I'd imagine most people on 12.04 will stick with it until 14.04 comes out. 12.04 is an LTS release, and is supported for 3-5 years from the release date where 12.10 through 13.10 are normal releases, and are only supported for 9 months from release. However, anyone on 12.10 should be able to "do-release-upgrade" and upgrade themselves to 13.04.
I wanted to stay on 12.04, however 12.10 came with the option to encrypt your whole hard-disk straight from the installer with dm-crypt, which is much better than ecryptfs, at least when it comes to performance. And manually encrypting your hard-disk with dm-crypt can be quite painful.
The downside of that is that 12.10 and non-LTS versions in general only get bug fixes for critical bugs, otherwise the bug fix is the upgrade to the next version, in this case 13.04. So you end up on the upgrade treadmill, whether you want it or not.
I'm waiting for a month at least before installing any new Ubuntu version though. At release they tend to be a little unstable.
Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released
#17does a proper arm release mean that samsung arm chrubuntu will be flawless?
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#18Is it possible to make an update from 12.10 without having to reinstall the system? EDIT: "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" did the trick. I will keep updated on progress.
You shouldn't need the -d, because it's no longer the development release.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd imagine most people on 12.04 will stick with it until 14.04 comes out. 12.04 is an LTS release, and is supported for 3-5 years from the release date where 12.10 through 13.10 are normal releases, and are only supported for 9 months from release. However, anyone on 12.10 should be able to "do-release-upgrade" and upgrade themselves to 13.04.
I wanted to stay on 12.04, however 12.10 came with the option to encrypt your whole hard-disk straight from the installer with dm-crypt, which is much better than ecryptfs, at least when it comes to performance. And manually encrypting your hard-disk with dm-crypt can be quite painful. The downside of that is that 12.10 and non-LTS versions in general only get bug fixes for critical bugs, otherwise the bug fix is the…
12.04 and earlier versions always had the option for full disk encryption with dm-crypt, but you had to use the alternate install CD with the curses installer. It wasn't complicated at all. All they did with later versions was to roll the option into the standard live CD installer.
Regarding bug fixes and the need to stay on the upgrade treadmill, it's much easier nowadays to stick with LTS versions since they implemented the LTS enablement stack (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack). Essentially it's the kernel and X.org of the current release backported to the LTS release, so you don't miss out on new hardware support while getting all the bug fixes and stability that come from the LTS.
That being said, however, I'm finding 12.04 to be extremely buggy when you're using Unity+Compiz.
Re: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released
#20Now what about releease notes? :-) (edit: some information is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview ) Currently i am thinking of switching to LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) because i don't really like the way Ubuntu is going with Unity, Mir, upstart, doing too much stuff on its own. Anyone with experience from LMDE here? Is it stable? Pros? Cons?
I'm using openSuse. It's fast and stable. Ubuntu Gnome ( http://ubuntugnome.org/ ) is also a good choice, but its not pure gnome as always.