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Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

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Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#31
Isn't this a part of some sort of PR strategy for the Sunlight Foundation? It's sort of hard to take this article seriously when the article literally contains fragments from the application's about page. Isn't this what they're trying to 'protect us' from?

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Aren't good PR people supposed to "sell" their story directly to a "journalist", without an intermediate publicly available press release?" That would require that the "journalist" pay attention and not just directly look through their pile of releases for a "story". News departments are lazy and don't want to pay for real news, they want it spoon-fed.

It's spoon-feeding I'm describing. It's just targeted, one-to-one spoon feeding instead of spray-and-pray press releases. It is way easier for a journalist to go to lunch, accept flattery for his sharp style and leadership in his field, and then walk home and copy-paste the text handed to him, than sift through the same pile of press releases that every other journalist in the industry is also sifting through.

My, aren't we all cynical today?

There is nothing wrong with the concept of a press release, particularly when used as intended, as a starting point for a piece of journalism.

In the media we write many different kinds of stories. Some are the vast investigative pieces that put the world to rights and might one day win a Pulitzer prize, but others are simply humdrum announcements of new products or services. I'd have thought that a community of founders would appreciate the value engendered by outlets that gather eyeballs for particular sectors and spread the sort of bread and butter news that is press released day in day out by stakeholders in those sectors -- usually after having first removed the hype, dubious claims ("World's first!") misrepresentation ("A and B have partnered to..." when it means A has bought/licensed something from B) and fluff ("We are excited to...", "This development reaffirms our commitment to...") that the authors of the press releases have inevitably included.

The simple truth is that press releases were not designed for direct consumption by the public, and sites that reproduce them verbatim do nobody any favours. However, in many circumstances several outlets could legitimately run very similar stories based on the same press release, and deliver great value in doing so because they all reach different audiences. Using a press release as a source is not in every case a dirty little secret that needs to be exposed by clever software.

Addressing the point made in the parent post, it seems to me there is a bit of a disconnect in assuming that one can take a journalist to lunch, tell him how very clever he is, and then hand him copy-paste text. Wouldn't work on anyone I know...

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#33

As a former PR person I can tell you that this ap is AWESOME. the general public has no idea how much of their "news" is actually just corporate created "infomercials" I don't even mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist- but it is truly shocking when as an intern I would write press releases and then later that night hear my exact words said on the evening news. This is especially true of newspapers who are trying…

I never quite published a press release verbatim in all the news stories I have written[1], but sometimes the information density of a press release is so low as to make a rewrite look like a copy anyway.

[1]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:trustedreviews.com+hu...

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#34
The Churnalism concept has been circulating in media/nonprofit think tanks for a couple years now.

Before a team worked on something similar at the Berkman Center in Cambridge, MA, we all discovered tools like iThenticate, which do the same job and more better.

More importantly, very little PR news was mislabeled as not PR. It was hypothesized that politicians read from PR directly into the Congressional record, but the instances were so exceedingly few and the audience so exceedingly small that there were no discoveries to announce.

Hence color me a little unsurprised that despite a great tool, Sunlight Foundation didn't actually find anything too controversial to announce with their tool.

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#35
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's spoon-feeding I'm describing. It's just targeted, one-to-one spoon feeding instead of spray-and-pray press releases. It is way easier for a journalist to go to lunch, accept flattery for his sharp style and leadership in his field, and then walk home and copy-paste the text handed to him, than sift through the same pile of press releases that every other journalist in the industry is also sifting through.

My, aren't we all cynical today? There is nothing wrong with the concept of a press release, particularly when used as intended, as a starting point for a piece of journalism. In the media we write many different kinds of stories. Some are the vast investigative pieces that put the world to rights and might one day win a Pulitzer prize, but others are simply humdrum announcements of new products or services. I'd have…

I am indeed being cynical, but I was also trying to play along with the premise of the article.

I think worrying over the influence of PR amounts to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, "news" ("The lie that something important happens every day") is much more fundamentally broken, as per this article that was discussed a while ago:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf...

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#36
Depending on the release and the article, I'm not convinced that rewriting or lifting words from a press release is always a bad thing. Is it possible to write a story about the latest Consumer Price Index without it being substantially based on this press release http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf ? Is it possible to write about a newly announced iPhone without lifting data from Apple PR events or releases?

I would rather have an article that lifts a technical phrase from a press release over one that attempts to reframe or extrapolate from it in a way that is no longer factually correct.

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#37
post #7

Reminds me of the fake web browser and IQ study (which claimed IE users are dumb). Basically every media house just copy pasted the press release. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Quotient_(IQ)_and_...

Since then, has there been a real study into the relation between intelligence and browser choice? I suspect the hoax report largely was picked up by IT sites and mainstream press because the conclusion sounded plausible to them (IE users = not smrt).

Yea it was an exploit of a cognitive bias (confirmation bias, to be exact [1].)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#38

As a former PR person I can tell you that this ap is AWESOME. the general public has no idea how much of their "news" is actually just corporate created "infomercials" I don't even mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist- but it is truly shocking when as an intern I would write press releases and then later that night hear my exact words said on the evening news. This is especially true of newspapers who are trying…

I never quite published a press release verbatim in all the news stories I have written[1], but sometimes the information density of a press release is so low as to make a rewrite look like a copy anyway. [1] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:trustedreviews.com+hu...

I don't think there is a problem with press releases, as long as journalists acknowledge them for what they are: press releases. It's fine imho for a newspaper to reproduce a press releases verbatim, if it makes it clear to the reader that no post-processing has been done.

What is not ok is to trick the reader into believing that a piece of information has received adequate treatment, when it really hasn't. There's an implicit contract of trust between the newspaper and the reader, and if that app does what it advertises, it will make the contract harder to breach.

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#39
post #36

Depending on the release and the article, I'm not convinced that rewriting or lifting words from a press release is always a bad thing. Is it possible to write a story about the latest Consumer Price Index without it being substantially based on this press release http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf ? Is it possible to write about a newly announced iPhone without lifting data from Apple PR events or releases?…

> Is it possible to write about a newly announced iPhone without lifting data from Apple PR events or releases?

No, but writing about the newly announced iPhone shouldn't really be called journalism.

Re: Is It Journalism, or Just a Repackaged Press Release? Here's a Tool to Help

#40
post #36

Depending on the release and the article, I'm not convinced that rewriting or lifting words from a press release is always a bad thing. Is it possible to write a story about the latest Consumer Price Index without it being substantially based on this press release http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf ? Is it possible to write about a newly announced iPhone without lifting data from Apple PR events or releases?…

This is a solved problem for journalists, and it is called "citing your sources". Either your source is anonymous and you give a good reason, or your source is cited.

When sources are not cited, we have PR or lies masquerading as journalism.

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