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What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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That's tragic, I assumed to get 25 years he must have killed somebody

There are those out there that would likely say he killed many. The war on drugs etc. I personally wonder what he would have achieved if unconstrained, if he can do as much as he has while in prison.

It's all speculation, but my guess is he wouldn't have achieved much and would probably be dead.

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It is ridiculous how some dangerous inmates manage to communicate with the outside world and continue to commit crimes through their network. By allowing them to use Wikipedia, they can leave coded messages as orders for fellow gang members. This happens with traditional mail and you can bet it'll be more wide spread with Internet access. I believe prisoners need the ability to learn and improve themselves while in p…

How hard it would be to develop a patched browser (on a secured os, plus a firewall of course) that would only allow "read only web access" (not form submitting, no way to manually go to an url by entering it) to a limited number of domains? I guess the number of dangerous inmates with advanced tech skills or outside resources is very low, so you could separate these high risk guys from the rest of the pack. There's…

Even a GET is a signal. As henchman on the outside I can create a page, linked from my wikipedia personal page or on some otherwise innocuous page, that says something like "Boss, should I off Big Tony? Click here for Yes, Click here for No" and wait to see which link he clicks.

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Presumably the reason why inmates don't have unfettered access to the internet is to make sure they're not running some empire from behind bars but at the same time in this day and age this sounds like exceptionally cruel punishment. If there is one thing that would help an ex-convict to re-integrate into society it would be to be able to read about what is going on in the outside world and to be able to self-educate…

ZOMG! We should totally make a petition to allow inmates to use the internet. How they manage without Facebook & Twitter is beyond me!

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Presumably the reason why inmates don't have unfettered access to the internet is to make sure they're not running some empire from behind bars but at the same time in this day and age this sounds like exceptionally cruel punishment. If there is one thing that would help an ex-convict to re-integrate into society it would be to be able to read about what is going on in the outside world and to be able to self-educate…

ZOMG! We should totally make a petition to allow inmates to use the internet. How they manage without Facebook & Twitter is beyond me!

Yes, let's make everything ridiculous, that way we can shout down any meaningful debate on whatever subject you don't agree with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_prisons

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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There are those out there that would likely say he killed many. The war on drugs etc. I personally wonder what he would have achieved if unconstrained, if he can do as much as he has while in prison.

It's all speculation, but my guess is he wouldn't have achieved much and would probably be dead.

What difference would 5, 10, 15, 20 or 25 years make?

In other words do you think that he will achieve something today that he would not have been able to achieve 5 years ago?

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Give them access to a static, read-only dump of Wikipedia hosted on an internal prison server. Update said dump once every month.

Knowing nothing about this sort of thing, is this a copyright issue?

Not only isn't it a copyright issue, but Wikipedia gives you the download link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

... though using torrents is generally recommended to reduce server load and bandwidth.

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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It is ridiculous how some dangerous inmates manage to communicate with the outside world and continue to commit crimes through their network. By allowing them to use Wikipedia, they can leave coded messages as orders for fellow gang members. This happens with traditional mail and you can bet it'll be more wide spread with Internet access. I believe prisoners need the ability to learn and improve themselves while in p…

How hard it would be to develop a patched browser (on a secured os, plus a firewall of course) that would only allow "read only web access" (not form submitting, no way to manually go to an url by entering it) to a limited number of domains? I guess the number of dangerous inmates with advanced tech skills or outside resources is very low, so you could separate these high risk guys from the rest of the pack. There's…

Ask North Korea.

Generally: the answer is to provide a web proxy or mirror with restrictions as to available content. And likely highly logged access.

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Presumably the reason why inmates don't have unfettered access to the internet is to make sure they're not running some empire from behind bars but at the same time in this day and age this sounds like exceptionally cruel punishment. If there is one thing that would help an ex-convict to re-integrate into society it would be to be able to read about what is going on in the outside world and to be able to self-educate…

ZOMG! We should totally make a petition to allow inmates to use the internet. How they manage without Facebook & Twitter is beyond me!

Yes! We should treat them like to rotten criminals they are! Throw them in the hole and toss away the key. That way they will never return[1]!

Oh, wait, that doesn't work. Perhaps treating them like normal human beings instead proves more effective[2].

[1]http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17 [2]http://www3.unil.ch/wpmu/space/publications/recidivism-studi...

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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Presumably the reason why inmates don't have unfettered access to the internet is to make sure they're not running some empire from behind bars but at the same time in this day and age this sounds like exceptionally cruel punishment. If there is one thing that would help an ex-convict to re-integrate into society it would be to be able to read about what is going on in the outside world and to be able to self-educate…

I know that HN likes to solve problems, but I don't think spending time debating the best mechanism to provide internet access to a population that many of us don't understand is worthwhile.

How about someone spend some time learning about best ways to rehabilitate criminals and whether internet access should be a part of that? (I'm poking fun that most of us have science, engineering, design backgrounds instead of Criminal Justice degrees).

It's easy to armchair quarterback a two sentence solution, but I doubt anyone leaving comments is going to change career paths into 'Correctional Facility IT'.

Re: What It’s Like to Get Online After 25 Years in Prison

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ZOMG! We should totally make a petition to allow inmates to use the internet. How they manage without Facebook & Twitter is beyond me!

Yes, let's make everything ridiculous, that way we can shout down any meaningful debate on whatever subject you don't agree with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_prisons

Australia: Prison-provided devices sometimes available outside of cells under approval.

Canada: No.

Norway: Yes, even in cells.

Romania: A few prisons have inmate-accessible computers, but no internet.

US: There is a 'TRULINCS' program providing supervised access to email (only) in some prisons.

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