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Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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I'm really cheering for Netflix. Outside of the US (I'm in the UK) people have complained about a lack of content but I'll pretty much give all my money to the people who bring back Arrested Development.

+1 on this. First time I hear about HBO Go (yeay for USA only web service - like Hulu). Netflix on the other hand is competing with Love Film over here.

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

#102

The figures don't include pirating. If HBO had been smart enough to launch and promote HBO GO as a stand-alone service, pirating would be lower and streaming/revenue/official viewership would be higher.

Stand by for a deluge of replies explaining exactly how HBO is making more money by refusing to take peoples' money.

I know, I know, I don't get it either.

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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And the net profit on a diamond necklace is higher than either. I'm not sure what point you're making. Apple didn't build the iPhone because it was profitable. They built it because they knew that a race was about to begin, in which second place was really going to suck. HBO is faced with the same reality, whether they believe it or not.

The point I'm making is that by introducing the iPhone, Apple didn't lose out by cannibalising iPod sales. Whereas if HBO changes models, it will cannibalise the existing business model at a net loss to the business overall. So the analogy with Apple's introduction of the iPhone is not relevant.

And the point I'm making is that the choice wasn't really theirs. Either they were going to sell the most profitable smartphones, or somebody else was going to.

Let's take a look at subscriber growth on Netflix versus HBO over the next few years, and resume the discussion then. As RIM learned, the first few derivatives of that number are important.

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They just released another Netflix-original series, Hemlock Grove. After watching through it, I'm not that impressed. The reviews I've read also seem to be on the negative side.

House of Cards is absolutely there at the top TV shows, it was simply amazing. Hemlock Grove is… different. Sometimes it really is extremely cheesy, some of the acting and dialogue is weird. But so far it has managed to keep me watching. And it had the best transformation I've seen, movie or tv, so far.

I just watched that transformation scene, so over-the-top creepy that it absolves the rest of the shows sins. So far.

Shudder.

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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post #88
post #55

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>... if you liked House of Cards, check out Game of Thrones. Is there anyone on hn who hasn't checked out Game of thrones?

Me. I don't have HBO, and I'm not willing to pirate it.

I don't have HBO, but I found a legit version on xbox.

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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post #88
post #55

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>... if you liked House of Cards, check out Game of Thrones. Is there anyone on hn who hasn't checked out Game of thrones?

Me. I don't have HBO, and I'm not willing to pirate it.

I pay for Netflix from India and for that I've to pay for a broadband service which is INR 2.5K (~$50) which is very costly for India, especially for a single person usage + VPN cost.

Somehow I am not able to make HBOGo work on my Mac with all the tweaking and hence I pirate it(Sad :'( )

I wish they had an app that would just make it work magically - something like PnP!

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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No, by consistently I mean without churn. See, what happens with Netflix, HBO, Showtime -- even regular cable -- is that subscriber churn happens. It's often cyclical. One of the reasons HBO staggers its release schedule for its programming is to try to get people to pay year-round (it's also why they introduced HBO Go -- in essence they gave up their home video revenue, or greatly limited it -- in exchange for keepi…

I'm sure Netflix has churn; I'm sure they have clients that turn the service on for only a few months of the year; I'm NOT sure that is the majority, which is what I assumed you and I were referencing when quoting "people." I'd literally pay 3-4x as much for the non-original content. Again, that is only 6-16hrs of content Netflix has to serve up, that is only remotely interesting. The convenience and paying for the b…

I don't even think the 8 bucks a month savings would ever be worth the hassle to subscribe/unsubscribe on any regular basis.

That's a brilliant pricing structure; one I never pay any attention to. They easily could get more out of me a month for the amount of value I get from it (and likely even more than that number if the quality of their unique content continues to shine).

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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The point I'm making is that by introducing the iPhone, Apple didn't lose out by cannibalising iPod sales. Whereas if HBO changes models, it will cannibalise the existing business model at a net loss to the business overall. So the analogy with Apple's introduction of the iPhone is not relevant.

And the point I'm making is that the choice wasn't really theirs. Either they were going to sell the most profitable smartphones, or somebody else was going to. Let's take a look at subscriber growth on Netflix versus HBO over the next few years, and resume the discussion then. As RIM learned, the first few derivatives of that number are important .

Perhaps you've forgotten how perfectly awful smart phones were before the iPhone.

The original pitch was never "check out these amazing apps". There were no apps. People's minds were blown by the fact that you could get a non-hideous phone with a UI not assembled by two troupes of rival chimpanzees.

Re: Netflix now bigger than HBO

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post #64
post #62

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I don't like the genre (fantasy), and I don't like soaps. "OMG, $x is fucking $y!" isn't my idea of entertainment unless $x and $y are people I know personally.

Ok... But have you checked it out?

>>"OMG, $x is fucking $y!"

IMHO, looks like didn't.

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